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    freeheeler @isazi
    last edited by 14 Mar 2021, 15:04

    @isazi
    I think so, too.
    if we customize we mess up as much as we want anyway

    living sideways

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      Bulkan Moderator
      last edited by 14 Mar 2021, 16:38

      The Suunto s9 doesn’t record RR intervals of HR, does it?

      Is a feature I would like to have, to run in goldencheetah a python graphic which tells you where did you run respect the 0,75 DFA 1.

      https://medium.com/@altini_marco/hrv-based-aerobic-threshold-estimation-for-endurance-athletes-a-practical-guide-8c1d744beae8

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        freeheeler @Bulkan
        last edited by 14 Mar 2021, 17:54

        @bulkan
        it only records IBI afaik

        living sideways

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          Łukasz Szmigiel @freeheeler
          last edited by 14 Mar 2021, 18:24

          @freeheeler you can get RR from IBI. Check runalyze and its data regarding HRV produced with Suunto watches.

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            Jonathan Schwarz Bronze Member @Fenr1r
            last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 05:45

            @fenr1r I usually want HR. I just don’t usually want WRIST HR. I would absolutely love love love if the S9 watch remembered last saved options for each activity. EVERY time I start an run or bike activity I have to go in, disable wrist HR, connect to my HR belt and then start the activity. It would be a huge time saver / increase ease of use.
            Same for Suunto+. I think it would make more sense for most users to just remember the last used option.
            For the HR issue - I would argue having bad HR data from the wrist HR is a worse option than having no HR data.

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              isazi Moderator @Jonathan Schwarz
              last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 05:51

              @jonathan-schwarz the external hr sensor has always higher priority than the internal one, so you don’t need to disable anything, if the external sensor is on and paired the S9 will use that, unless you disabled it in the sport.

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                cosme.costa @Jonathan Schwarz
                last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 05:53

                @jonathan-schwarz said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

                @fenr1r I usually want HR. I just don’t usually want WRIST HR. I would absolutely love love love if the S9 watch remembered last saved options for each activity. EVERY time I start an run or bike activity I have to go in, disable wrist HR, connect to my HR belt and then start the activity. It would be a huge time saver / increase ease of use.
                Same for Suunto+. I think it would make more sense for most users to just remember the last used option.
                For the HR issue - I would argue having bad HR data from the wrist HR is a worse option than having no HR data.

                You do not need to disable the OHR. If your chest strap or external OHR is connected when you start the activity, the watch will get the HR from the external HR device. The watch uses the OHR when it doesn’t detect a bluetooth HR device. You can see this, when you choose the activity, and you are waiting for GPS and HR you will see that the heart symbol have like a strap not a plain heart, besides there are no lights in the watch OHR.

                What the watch can’t do is switch between externa or integrated HR during and activity.

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                  Jonathan Schwarz Bronze Member @cosme.costa
                  last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 06:06

                  @cosmecosta Oooh!! OMG I can’t believe this haha. Thank you so much. I didn’t know there was a difference in the HR icon between WHR and OHR.
                  Suunto should have a glossary of all the icons in the app/watch haha.

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                    Mff73 @Jonathan Schwarz
                    last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 06:50

                    @jonathan-schwarz said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

                    @cosmecosta Oooh!! OMG I can’t believe this haha. Thank you so much. I didn’t know there was a difference in the HR icon between WHR and OHR.
                    Suunto should have a glossary of all the icons in the app/watch haha.

                    maybe it already exists 😉 in the manual
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                      surfboomerang @cosme.costa
                      last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 07:02

                      @cosmecosta said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

                      What the watch can’t do is switch between externa or integrated HR during and activity.

                      Does someone know why? Occasionally it happened to me that during a race the strap sensor failed (bad battery). I would be nice if the OHR can function as backup during the activity.

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                        isazi Moderator @surfboomerang
                        last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 07:24

                        @surfboomerang because it’s difficult and could lead to lots of problems. It would also use more battery.

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                          A Former User @surfboomerang
                          last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 07:30

                          @surfboomerang said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

                          It would be nice if the OHR can function as backup during the activity.

                          What if connection is lost only temporary with the strap sensor? It’s a tough decision to make for a watch when to switch. 🙂

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                            DMytro @Guest
                            last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 09:01

                            @andrasveres maybe it can display a warning message, like for lost gps connection. And then to give an option to switch to whr.

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                              surfboomerang @DMytro
                              last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 09:05

                              @дима-мельниченко said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

                              @andrasveres maybe it can display a warning message, like for lost gps connection. And then to give an option to switch to whr.

                              Something like this.
                              Same for GNSS settings. I you see that GPS is struggling during and activity it would be wonderful to change GNSS mode without quitting the activity first.

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                                A Former User @DMytro
                                last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 09:28

                                @дима-мельниченко That’s great, but that would need more options to choice from just to be a whole solution:

                                • switch to WHR and don’t look further for chest strap
                                • switch to WHR, but continue look for chest strap
                                • don’t switch and don’t look further
                                • don’t switch, but continue look for chest strap

                                To name a few I can think of right now.

                                Not to mention GNSS mode switch written by @surfboomerang would be more complex and cumbersome to implement in my opinion.

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                                  stromdiddily Gold Members @surfboomerang
                                  last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 17:01

                                  @surfboomerang said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

                                  @cosmecosta said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

                                  What the watch can’t do is switch between externa or integrated HR during and activity.

                                  Does someone know why? Occasionally it happened to me that during a race the strap sensor failed (bad battery). I would be nice if the OHR can function as backup during the activity.

                                  There are other companies doing this…would be a nice touch honestly.

                                  Connected - WHR off
                                  Lose connection - WHR on

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                                    freeheeler @stromdiddily
                                    last edited by freeheeler 29 Mar 2021, 17:32

                                    @stromdiddily
                                    but how would it handle the data in SA in case the chest belt syncs the missing data after the activity? priority to the belt?

                                    living sideways

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                                      stromdiddily Gold Members @freeheeler
                                      last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 19:11

                                      @freeheeler right now there is only one belt that does that, but fair enough point.

                                      Where data is available, data from the belt should be used otherwise pick up from the watch.

                                      Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                                      User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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                                        DMytro @Guest
                                        last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 19:53

                                        @andrasveres i think it can be simplified to three options (since only three buttons): hr off, continue looking for hr belt, use whr.

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                                          MiniForklift Platinum Member
                                          last edited by MiniForklift 30 Mar 2021, 03:31

                                          It’s possibly already been mentioned but it would be good to see the elevation gain go up a metre/foot at a time. Lag aside it would feel closer to ascending in real time, rather than having it jump up in 3 or 4m increments

                                          Can’t imagine it would be too hard to implement as it already goes up a metre at a time in SuuntoPlus Climb

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