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    SlaSh Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
    last edited by SlaSh 4 Jun 2018, 10:29 6 Apr 2018, 10:29

    @dimitrios-kanellopoulos anyway no matter BW1.2 can provide vo2, RR and HRV as well, just the matter if suunto is willing to give this functionality for customers 🙂 Once s3f released I can do reverse engineering of s3f FW to make sure what kind of sensor it is 🙂

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @SlaSh
      last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 10:32

      @slashas said in Suunto 3 Fitness Thoughts:

      @dimitrios-kanellopoulos anyway no matter BW1.2 can provide vo2, RR and HRV as well, just the matter if suunto is willing to give this functionality for customers 🙂 Once s3f released I can do reverse engineering of s3f FW to make sure what kind of sensor it is 🙂

      haha true but only resting RR eh!

      Btw take a look at this:

      0_1523010700367_Screen Shot 2018-04-06 at 12.31.00.png

      What do you make out (I am not expert here) and I more will trust you @slashas rather than 5K runner etc.

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        SlaSh Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 10:42

        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos looks like BW1.2 by shape, led placement 2 green, 1 yellow, optical sensor. Looks exactly the same as on my baro 🙂 this is just speculations, to confirm that I need FW 🙂

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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
          last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 11:10

          @slashas said in Suunto 3 Fitness Thoughts:

          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos looks like BW1.2 by shape, led placement 2 green, 1 yellow, optical sensor. Looks exactly the same as on my baro 🙂 this is just speculations, to confirm that I need FW 🙂

          I am with you on this one.

          But as you I am also trying to understand.

          Take a look here:
          0_1523012973702_Screen Shot 2018-04-06 at 13.06.51.png

          Left is the trainer and then it’s SSSWHR and Baro. The SSWHR and Baro have a different component.

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            NicolasP @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
            last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 11:17

            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos in lot of reviews I’ve read that the Trainer uses the same OWHR component than Sport but presented differently as rotated by 180° and integrated differently as well as the modul is not hidden in the case of the watch.

            SST

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @NicolasP
              last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 11:22

              @nicolasp said in Suunto 3 Fitness Thoughts:

              @dimitrios-kanellopoulos in lot of reviews I’ve read that the Trainer uses the same OWHR component than Sport but presented differently as rotated by 180° and integrated differently as well as the modul is not hidden in the case of the watch.

              To be honest I do not really know. From my tests on S3F vs Trainer etc the light diodes do blink differently and I get IBI data from running and rest.

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                SlaSh Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                last edited by SlaSh 4 Jun 2018, 11:46 6 Apr 2018, 11:43

                @dimitrios-kanellopoulos more expensive watches are having sensor under the watch frame, lower quality are under glass composite solution which is more easy and cheaper to manufacture.

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                  SlaSh Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                  last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 11:45

                  @dimitrios-kanellopoulos led flashing might be FW related 😉 we will see if there are going to be any changes with comming FW to spartan line, currently my sensor fw level is 5196.

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @SlaSh
                    last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 11:49

                    @slashas said in Suunto 3 Fitness Thoughts:

                    @dimitrios-kanellopoulos more expensive watches are having sensor under the watch frame, lower quality are under glass composite solution which is more easy and cheaper to manufacture.

                    I was talking about the leds. There are not the same. Take a closer look

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                      SlaSh Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 11:59

                      @dimitrios-kanellopoulos but if you look how trainer is flashing, it is flashing the same as the baro or spartan with ohrm 😉

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                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @SlaSh
                        last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 12:01

                        @slashas said in Suunto 3 Fitness Thoughts:

                        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos but if you look how trainer is flashing, it is flashing the same as the baro or spartan with ohrm 😉

                        yes yes that is what I said. But S3F has it continuously. At the start I thought my unit was broken.

                        Anyways I am kinda sure there will be an upgrade to the FW but not sure if the S3F goodies will come, perhaps not due to limitation of Hw but more over licensing.

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                          SlaSh Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by SlaSh 4 Jun 2018, 12:17 6 Apr 2018, 12:16

                          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos when I first bought baro I thought my unit is defective cause how ohrm is flashing, as all previous watches which I have owned were flashing fast barely noticeable with naked eye or even not noticeable. I need to do test with the leds with continuously power supply and with impulse power supply would be interesting to test which solution draws more power 😉

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                            LuĂ­s Pinto Platinum Member @SlaSh
                            last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 12:49

                            @slashas alt text

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                              jthomi @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 15:16

                              So, and then we can get rid of the SportsTracker Account? Right now its still not delete-able but I really still don’t need this another “tracking” account besides the app, Movescount and Strava. And I felt kinda forced to use it.

                              @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Suunto 3 Fitness Thoughts:

                              Regarding the MC let me shed some insight on this.
                              The MC integration with the Suunto app will come having MC as a dependency. That means that from the Suunto app you will connect to MC and not the way around.
                              This indicates that MC to Suunto app is a service and a relaltion similar to Strava with the Suunto app. Suunto app will not replace MC any time soon. And if that would have been the case you would already know. You don’t flip a switch in 6 months on a product.

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                                Frédéric Fiandino
                                last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 19:29

                                For the french user â˜ș

                                link text

                                Race
                                S9P with a firmware too
                                SSSWHR with a firmware inside
                                Ambit 3 Run

                                https://runalyze.com/athlete/Fred13270

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                                  SlaSh Platinum Member @jthomi
                                  last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 20:11

                                  @jthomi wait for the beta to end 😉

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                                    NicolasP @Frédéric Fiandino
                                    last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 20:13

                                    @frĂ©dĂ©ric-fiandino merci 😀

                                    SST

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                                      jthomi @SlaSh
                                      last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 20:22

                                      we’ll see


                                      @slashas said in Suunto 3 Fitness Thoughts:

                                      @jthomi wait for the beta to end 😉

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                                        Ze Stuart Gold Members
                                        last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 20:51

                                        @slashas @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos that was a good debate to read. (I imagined it taking place in a Suunto pub, with app-icon coasters.)

                                        https://zulusierra.co

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                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Ze Stuart
                                          last edited by 6 Apr 2018, 21:27

                                          @ze-stuart @slashas @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos (I imagined it taking place in a Suunto pub, with app-icon coasters)
That would be fun!!!

                                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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