Suunto 3 Fitness Thoughts

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@luís-pinto but do they provide first beat data or adoptive training ?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@luís-pinto and most important size/weight.

The fitness is almost wieghtless

[Luís Pinto]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos People that only can spend 90 €, keep happy to get an activity monitor. At most cases they don’t care about advanced metrics. Different markets.

[suzzlo]

I would be great if we can get some of these features in our Spartan watches (adoptive training, for example), but I’m not sure if this watch share development with Spartan ones, because of the watch name “Suunto 3 Fitness”, no Spartan in the name

[TheRunningDaddy]

@luís-pinto you answered your own doubts. This is about getting into different market and also developing new technology. If it would have GNSS it doesn’t mean that people wouldn’t buy xiaomi. Products “war” is also about design, where Suunto wins all the “fights”, so releasing that kind of product in not a bad idea. I just wonder how adoptive training will work. That could be big selling point since I haven’t heard of wearable that can adopt training on weekly basis (i’m talking about big players… I exclude any Samsung or Apple-like toys, since they’re still flashy smartwatches pretend to be pro trackers). Let’s see.

For me this watch represents what I miss now on Spartan and Love on my Polar V800 - activity tracking (day to day activity) and adoptive training (Polar does this via training program that is then adopted/corrected after 8 weeks). I hope what Fitness brings to the table we will have later on on Spartans or next gen Suunto’s running watches.

The question remains if all that is written in product description will be delivered.

[suzzlo]

@therunningdaddy said in Suunto 3 Fitness Thoughts:

For me this watch represents what I miss now on Spartan and Love on my Polar V800 - activity tracking (day to day activity) and adoptive training (Polar does this via training program that is then adopted/corrected after 8 weeks). I hope what Fitness brings to the table we will have later on on Spartans or next gen Suunto’s running watches.

Totally agree:

• Step count has no sense as activity measure. I can swim 3 hours and bike 4 hours, and meke only 3000 steps in a day
• Adoptive Trainning, used in my Polar M400, as you comment
• Fit measure (¿VO2MAX?)
• Better sleep tracking

And they say, Suunto App will be starting in spring (out of beta)!

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

Step count has no sense as activity measure. I can swim 3 hours and bike 4 hours, and meke only 3000 steps in a day

I think the device has sport modes. You can bike np and it will track biking and base on calories. Same would apply for swimming no?

[Luís Pinto]

@therunningdaddy The description/specs is very small. Today with this information it’s not possible to take any conclusion. Let’s see if Suunto will publish something more substancial.

[suzzlo]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos
In my Spartan, I can configure 2 daily goals => Steps and Calories -> this is the only way to measure my daily activity (and have inactivity alerts…)

In my Polar, Activity measure is computed: “Polar device uses an internal 3D accelerometer to record your wrist movements. It analyses the frequency, intensity and regularity of your movements together with your physical information”

I know, I have Sport Modes, but I don’t understand, how can help me in daily activity. Some days I can work 12 hours with computer without moving and other days, i can have a family day in the beach, having 4 baths and making, little walks in the sand, without creating “Open water swim” and “Walking” activities

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@suzzlo Beacause I started with polar, try to go for a swim with it, tracking or not. I did 4km swimming got 300cal, tracked or not. That thing is not working.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@suzzlo The Spartan with HR calculates your level, or adds calories (to keep it simple) depending on your HR and burnrate.

If you don’t track, but you have an elevated HR for various reason (eg cycling or running) the avg burnrate increases and that is taken both to recovery calc and how many calories you burn.

[suzzlo]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos swim 4k 330cal? are you Michael Phelps?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@suzzlo However the subject here is what to come and how SF3 will handle this. From the images and the little info we have this is done completely diffrently

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@suzzlo said in Suunto 3 Fitness Thoughts:

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos swim 4k 330cal? are you Michael Phelps?

For the sake of it (could not find the 4K):

https://flow.polar.com/training/analysis/819745791

If you do think that polar does it well… well… I got bad news…

[suzzlo]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos ahhh, new info for me, thx!
And if you have very high level of activity (without tracking a workout) rec time goes up? this will be very good

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@suzzlo it should. However let’s wait to see it in action. Unfortunately we are overspeculating here.

[suzzlo]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos forget swimming (with M400), think about running (without tracking) the Polar Activity measure works well. And as you have explained I can have same, with calories in Suunto. Good!

[A Former User]

No han terminado de solucionar los problemas del spartan y ya estan sacando otro reloj. Espero que el suunto 3 no lo saquen inacabado como el spartan

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@suzzlo I am using the SSU, that unit does not have OHR. That I think is our problem here. Without the unit being able to also measure HR the 3D movement things are so and so. Tested it in the past with Polar (I was 2+years user) it’s ok. Nothing biggie there.

However, regarding the SF3 I read very interesting stuff.

Take a look here https://the5krunner.com/2018/01/09/suunto-3-fitness-another-new-suunto-kinda/

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@fleky Why would they not? It’s new HW as it was the trainer…