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    Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

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    • freeheelerF Offline
      freeheeler
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      … just compared my wifes and sister in laws half marathon track recordings from last week.
      one A3R and one A3PS.
      Both are a bit offset… and from a distance it roughly looks like same accuracy as S9B…
      every device receives satellite data and calculates individually… this makes me think that it is nice to compare A3PS vs S9B directly but we should not judge too critical…

      … I mean… please correct me if I’m wrong, but the satellites are located more or less half way to the moon… 1m accuracy is like if you would want to shoot a football from the moon into a goal in whatever stadium, isn’t it?!

      living sideways

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      • pilleusP Offline
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        @TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

        it is nice to compare A3PS vs S9B

        Yes, it is. And in all cases the tracks of the Ambit 3 are better. More accurate, more precise.

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        • freeheelerF Offline
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          last edited by freeheeler

          @pilleus
          but when I checked A3R vs A3PS they also differ… it’s hard to quantify but it is a measuring system and it has tolerance. That’s my point of view.

          here are two tracks of the same skitour, both with A3PS… first how it should be, second when recording is crap… even A3PS hast its weak days

          Screenshot_20191101-235212.png

          Screenshot_20191101-235111.png

          edit: if you follow the second track you’ll fall over a not insignificant cliff…

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          • freeheelerF Offline
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            here another comparison of 3 circles in my backyard

            https://quantified-self.io/user/jBm0qOhihUMykVYD8HBJMshQrJc2/event/Z3fjts8jvu1Dafbn6g1b

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            • zhang965Z Offline
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              @TELE-HO your backyard looks like a dildo???

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              • freeheelerF Offline
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                @zhang965
                😂
                yes that’s what’s left after they built some roads and houses 😉

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                  @TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                  @zhang965
                  😂
                  yes that’s what’s left after they built some roads and houses 😉

                  Well, I guess it’s not funny to have a dildo in you backyard

                  😁

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                    freeheeler @sartoric
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                    @sartoric
                    … and I tell my kids not to draw stupid things with chalk on the streets… 😉

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                    • Fenr1rF Offline
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                      last edited by Fenr1r

                      @TELE-HO My theology is a bit rusty but if drawing, carving and/or gardening giant wangs is supposed to appeal to gods of fertility, what does outlining a massive vibrator get you?

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                      • freeheelerF Offline
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                        last edited by

                        @Fenr1r
                        I didn’t do this for myself but for others in need as I am a giving person 😉

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                          last edited by Fenr1r

                          @TELE-HO Bravo. And as you give, so should you receive. What goes around, comes around. Etc.

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                            @Fenr1r 🙈

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                              last edited by freeheeler

                              here’s another comparison of S9B vs A3PS with same settings. This time the chest strap was connected to A3PS and OHR was used with S9B to check for differences between the two types of HR measuring.
                              At home I’ve changed manually by purpose the altitude to the wrong value of around 650m in both watches to check what they do with FusedAlti.
                              S9B got a start alti of 481m, A3PS has 472m. The total ascent of S9B was 146m and A3PS 159m.
                              Swiss Topo Map shows at my start point 472m.
                              The alti profile of both recordings look similar, and the offset from start is constant throughout the activities. I don’t know why S9B shows a more nervous graph but still has less meters total ascent. Does it measure the alti more often?! A3PS looks much “smoother”.
                              Distance S9B: 7.74km, A3PS: 7.79m.
                              Between km 3 and 4 I purposely went once around a big tree… S9B did not recognize this circle, A3PS did.

                              The HR graph in my opinion is differing, too. But for me it’s good enough. In general I will use the strap anyway, because of less battery consumption and better measuring precision. I noticed that S9B was often a bit higher and took longer time to show lower HR values when the trail changed from up to downhill.

                              It’s interesting to see these differences… BUT I must say that I would believe both.
                              The start altitude of A3PS nailed it… could be coincidence or pure precision 👍

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                              • Fenr1rF Offline
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                                @TELE-HO The tree was a nice touch. Interesting.

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                                  @TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                  I don’t know why S9B shows a more nervous graph but still has less meters total ascent

                                  Thanks! That is a good comparison!

                                  One reason why S9B may have a more nervous graph is that it logs elevation every 1 second vs 10 seconds for A3P. But that still doesn’t help with more accurate total ascent.

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                                    @silentvoyager said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                    very 1 second vs 10 seconds

                                    I suspected this but I’ve had something in memory that it is not adjustable anymore because 10sec would make more sense… but I obviously recall this wrong…

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                                    • cosme.costaC Offline
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                                      After one week with the S9 baro, and comparing it to the SSU:

                                      Pros:

                                      • Battery life/Battery modes
                                      • OHR (for who uses it)
                                      • Better tracks
                                      • Firstbeat stuff (for who uses it)
                                      • Nicer (personal opinion)
                                      • Buttons (I feel them more robust)

                                      Cons:

                                      • GPS lock is extremely slow comparing to the SSU, even with the AGPS updated. I mean, with the SSU and an updated AGPS the lock is done in less than 10 seconds, with the S9 I have needed 30 seconds, and today more than 5 minutes with the AGPS up to date. All this, checking in the same spot. I need more activities to see if its the normal behavior.
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                                      • isaziI Offline
                                        isazi Moderator @cosme.costa
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                                        @cosmecosta doesn’t seem normal, mine gets the green GPS light in seconds, unless I’m moving to a complete different location.

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                                        • sartoricS Offline
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                                          last edited by sartoric

                                          @cosmecosta
                                          Afair the GPS lock is slower the firs times

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                                          • cosme.costaC Offline
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                                            @isazi and @sartoric Well, maybe is something punctual, today when I finished my run I tried again run and got the green arrow within the normal time (as I use to have with the SSU). As I said, I need more activities to have it more clear, but my feeling, after one week, is that it is slower.

                                            I’m not worried, at least yet.

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