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Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

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    zhang965
    last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 06:26

    The step counter is too sucking to be a con ?

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      azeanic
      last edited by azeanic 19 Sept 2019, 09:15

      I ran a 109k race recently and there was a Suunto 9 (me), a Coros Vertix and a Fenix 5 (two other runners) My observations were.

      • Suunto 9, the distance was off by quite a bit. I had to probably minus 6-8k off the current distance on the watch to match the course. Saving grace was the navigation and course profile. The estimated time arrival was quite useful as well.
      • Fenix 5, had the most accurate distance among the three.
      • Coros Vertix, had the best battery life among us 3 at the 60km mark. I had to disable OHR and charge a bit half-way through the race and finished with about 18% after 29.5 hours. Whilst I vaguely remember the Coros has more than enough battery to get to the finish line without a recharge.
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        freeheeler @azeanic
        last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 09:48

        @azeanic
        never run out of battery says suunto…?!

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          sartoric Moderator @azeanic
          last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 10:16

          @azeanic said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

          Coros Vertix, had the best battery life among us 3 at the 60km mark. I had to disable OHR and charge a bit half-way through the race and finished with about 18% after 29.5 hours. Whilst I vaguely remember the Coros has more than enough battery to get to the finish line without a recharge.

          Out of curiosity, was Coros using OHR and same precision (of course,not the same but equivalent) for GPS ?

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            zhang965 @azeanic
            last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 11:19

            @azeanic which GPS precision did you use for the running ? I think it’s a problem with FUSEDTRACK

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              azeanic @zhang965
              last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 12:55

              @zhang965 Best GPS Mode.

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                azeanic @sartoric
                last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 12:55

                @sartoric Not sure what’s the precision but OHR was on based off his Strava logs.

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                  freeheeler @azeanic
                  last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:04

                  @azeanic
                  how does your s9 and garmin/coros track look compared in strava?
                  …despite that I noticed that strava shows a compressed trackline compared to SA and MC…

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                    freeheeler @zhang965
                    last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:05

                    @zhang965
                    you’ve got fusedtrack disabled? and better precision?

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                      A Former User @azeanic
                      last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:14

                      @azeanic said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                      Coros Vertix, had the best battery life among us 3 at the 60km mark. I had to disable OHR and charge a bit half-way through the race and finished with about 18% after 29.5 hours. Whilst I vaguely remember the Coros has more than enough battery to get to the finish line without a recharge.

                      Coros Vertix is advertised to have 60 hours in the best GPS mode, but the accuracy isn’t as good as Suunto 9 from some discussions that I’ve seen so far.

                      Suuto 9 could have survived the entire race on a single charge in Performance mode if OHR was turned off from the beginning, but that would be a close call.

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                        freeheeler @Guest
                        last edited by freeheeler 19 Sept 2019, 14:42

                        @silentvoyager
                        does chest strap use less battery than ohr?

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                          zhang965 @freeheeler
                          last edited by zhang965 19 Sept 2019, 14:42

                          @TELE-HO of course, chest belt requests less battery

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                            johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @zhang965
                            last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:44

                            @zhang965 what makes you think so? Bluetooth/ANT+ consumes also energy and WHR is optimized to use also as less as possible? Just because chast Belt has it’s own battery for sensor and transmission?

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                              zhang965 @johann.fuehrer
                              last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:50

                              @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                              @zhang965 what makes you think so? Bluetooth/ANT+ consumes also energy and WHR is optimized to use also as less as possible? Just because chast Belt has it’s own battery for sensor and transmission?

                              I didn’t think so, it just acts so,
                              try it yourself, in the same sport mode, s9 will show different estimated battery life.

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                                johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @zhang965
                                last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:52

                                @zhang965 ---- no chance — still on Ambit2 — waiting for improvements in the App and Firmware before wasting money again …

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                                  Egika Platinum Member @johann.fuehrer
                                  last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:55

                                  @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                  @zhang965 what makes you think so? Bluetooth/ANT+ consumes also energy and WHR is optimized to use also as less as possible? Just because chast Belt has it’s own battery for sensor and transmission?

                                  It’s true.
                                  WHR consumes more energy because the LED’s use way more than BTLE.
                                  BTLE has an average current of ~0.05mA (depending largely on the chipset)
                                  The high rate LED switching easily uses 10x as much power…

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                                    johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Egika
                                    last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:56

                                    @Egika said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                    @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                    @zhang965 what makes you think so? Bluetooth/ANT+ consumes also energy and WHR is optimized to use also as less as possible? Just because chast Belt has it’s own battery for sensor and transmission?

                                    It’s true.
                                    WHR consumes more energy because the LED’s use way more than BTLE.
                                    BTLE has an average current of ~0.05mA (depending largely on the chipset)
                                    The high rate LED switching easily uses 10x as much power…

                                    Thx for the info!

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                                      freeheeler @zhang965
                                      last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 15:00

                                      @zhang965
                                      what is, by your experience, the battery life in best GPS mode?

                                      and another technical question: is it possible to get oxygen values with these LED’s or would it require a different sensor?

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                                        zhang965
                                        last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 15:01

                                        @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                        @zhang965 ---- no chance — still on Ambit2 — waiting for improvements in the App and Firmware before wasting money again …

                                        It’s a wise strategy, I think suunto number line will never get the same (feeling ) as ambit line.

                                        Personally I recommend you to get a second hand SSU if you don’t want wasting money, or garmin/polar stuff.

                                        The difference between ambit and suunto number line is huge, I think as long as you stay with ambit, you will get harder to understand a new generation watch

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                                          johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @zhang965
                                          last edited by johann.fuehrer 19 Sept 2019, 15:11

                                          @zhang965 I had an “SSU Titanium Customized” until last week and dropped it because of issues … I’m now waiting where to go and stay with the A2 Peak Sapphire

                                          And I had Also an S9 BARo & S9BARO Titanium which I also get rid of as long as I could get my money back. I’m not giving up, but I will not wait forever …

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