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    Fenr1r @jsuarez
    last edited by Fenr1r 12 Nov 2019, 12:50 11 Dec 2019, 12:49

    @jsuarez (& @Michał-Rudzki) Switching brands makes complete sense when a brand appears to be no longer catering to your Special Interest. In sufficient volume, such actions probably make more impact on a company than forum posts alone. The problem for those wishing the return of their SI is getting the company to link lower sales with a specific deprecated feature.

    However, as a Spartan-feature-expansion-hoper myself, relying on those “logical expectations” might lead you into more grief down the road. The “logic” and expectations derived therefrom are based on A) unrealistic (i.e., demonstrably incorrect) assumptions and B) solipsism.

    A) New models (no matter how premium) and software revisions do not necessarily keep all the features of the old. Stuff gets deprecated: I am sure you can think of many non-Suunto examples easily. Equally, brands often maintain distinction (especially if they hover at different price points) by focussing on different feature sets. Somewhere Suunto probably has a list of software features and the time/labor cost/benefit of the programming involved: their logic (no matter that we cannot see it) is paramount in product development, not our expectations.

    B) That deprecated stuff might be your (or my) favorite stuff.

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      BobMiles Bronze Member
      last edited by 12 Dec 2019, 21:07

      Garmin just released the next big update for the FR945, where they bring community requested features and bugfixes. Just after a month since the last release. Coming from suunto, that feels almost impossible.
      It’s hard to see that there still is nothing new for the Spartans… 😕

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        isazi Moderator @BobMiles
        last edited by 13 Dec 2019, 00:51

        @BobMiles comparing the 945 to the Spartans is not fair, 945 is the current Forerunner flagship, Spartans are not Suunto flagship anymore. Better example would be the 935 that also just got an update itself, all bugfixes, but still it got something.

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          Paulo Silva
          last edited by 13 Dec 2019, 09:56

          I have a friend that has a Fenix 3 and got updates recently.
          Pu me in te list, is I had to change watch soon, it will be a Garmin…

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            sartoric Moderator @Paulo Silva
            last edited by 13 Dec 2019, 09:59

            @Paulo-Silva said in Spartan update complains:

            I have a friend that has a Fenix 3 and got updates recently.
            Pu me in te list, is I had to change watch soon, it will be a Garmin…

            Out of curiosity … which kind of upgrades ?
            Bug fixing ? New features ?

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              isazi Moderator @sartoric
              last edited by 13 Dec 2019, 10:00

              @sartoric bug fixes.

              https://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=7623

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                sartoric Moderator @isazi
                last edited by 13 Dec 2019, 10:13

                @isazi

                Fixed an intermittent issue where the device might crash around midnight.

                😱 😱 😱

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                  Saketo Nemo Moderator @isazi
                  last edited by 13 Dec 2019, 10:18

                  @isazi
                  there may be updates until 2025 🙃

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                    ianshowalter @sartoric
                    last edited by 13 Dec 2019, 13:06

                    @sartoric That’s quality right there. 🤣🤣

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                      ianshowalter @isazi
                      last edited by ianshowalter 13 Dec 2019, 13:09

                      @isazi And continuing with that comparison to the 935, the Spartans (at least the ones with built-in HR) DID get a bug fix update just a month and a half ago.

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                        Matthew Curtiss @ianshowalter
                        last edited by 13 Dec 2019, 16:01

                        @ianshowalter said in Spartan update complains:

                        @isazi And continuing with that comparison to the 935, the Spartans (at least the ones with built-in HR) DID get a bug fix update just a month and a half ago.

                        The last full update (2.8.24) for the SUUNTO SPARTAN TRAINER WRIST HR was in June 2019. (I have no idea what the 2.8.28 fixes, nor does Suunto give a date or release notes on that one) .

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                          isazi Moderator @Matthew Curtiss
                          last edited by 13 Dec 2019, 16:46

                          @Matthew-Curtiss should have been in early October.

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                            Mff73 @Matthew Curtiss
                            last edited by 13 Dec 2019, 16:48

                            @Matthew-Curtiss said in Spartan update complains:

                            @ianshowalter said in Spartan update complains:

                            @isazi And continuing with that comparison to the 935, the Spartans (at least the ones with built-in HR) DID get a bug fix update just a month and a half ago.

                            The last full update (2.8.24) for the SUUNTO SPARTAN TRAINER WRIST HR was in June 2019. (I have no idea what the 2.8.28 fixes, nor does Suunto give a date or release notes on that one) .

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                              Mff73
                              last edited by 13 Dec 2019, 16:49

                              and afair, WHR improvments.

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                                Matthew Curtiss @Mff73
                                last edited by 13 Dec 2019, 18:14

                                @Mff73 said in Spartan update complains:

                                and afair, WHR improvments.

                                IMO, I saw no WHR improvements, but YMMV.

                                I probably should have said no “detailed”: release notes, like with previous releases.

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                                  Matthew Curtiss
                                  last edited by 13 Dec 2019, 18:15

                                  And I will say, I still share this guy’s issues: https://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Triathlon_Forum_F1/Suunto_Spartan_Sport_WHR_-_firmware_fubar_P7061966/

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                                    roma12_7 Bronze Member @Matthew Curtiss
                                    last edited by 13 Dec 2019, 22:09

                                    Do you think Spartan watches will have an update before Christmas 2019? I heard Santa Claus live in the north of Finland!!

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                                      isazi Moderator @Matthew Curtiss
                                      last edited by 14 Dec 2019, 03:35

                                      @Matthew-Curtiss the update was also for the S line, and I didn’t notice anything wrong with it.

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                                        BobMiles Bronze Member @isazi
                                        last edited by 14 Dec 2019, 09:30

                                        @isazi yeah me neither, but it it also didn’t improve anything for me. OHR stayed in the miserable state it was in before. It is rather an optical cadence sensor 😉

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                                          isazi Moderator @BobMiles
                                          last edited by 14 Dec 2019, 10:48

                                          @BobMiles I don’t use OHR for running, just for all day measurement, and for hiking/walking/mountaineering activities.

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