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    sartoric Moderator
    last edited by 14 Jan 2021, 10:17

    @DRezvoff
    Did you contacted suunto support ? I would do it

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      DRezvoff @sartoric
      last edited by 18 Jan 2021, 04:05

      @sartoric I hope Suunto technicians read this forum and are aware of the problem…
      if there are no changes, I will contact support directly

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        isazi Moderator @DRezvoff
        last edited by 18 Jan 2021, 09:23

        @DRezvoff better contact support, Suunto is not really monitoring this forum for bugs. There are a couple of developers here in the forum, sure, but it is better to let Suunto know.

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          DRezvoff @isazi
          last edited by 17 Sept 2021, 03:14

          @isazi The Russian support service could not help me… they give a standard set of actions that are written on the Suunto website.
          The clock began to lie at a climb of 20-50 m… that’s a lot. I have repeatedly thought about changing the clock to Garmin, they release updates regularly.

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            isazi Moderator @DRezvoff
            last edited by 17 Sept 2021, 09:27

            @drezvoff does your watch has a barometer? I don’t know the specifics it. Also, yes Garmin releases many updates, not too many for watches that are as old as yours though.

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              Mi_chael Bronze Member @DRezvoff
              last edited by 17 Sept 2021, 09:35

              @drezvoff

              My fenix have many update but too many bugs…!!!

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                DRezvoff @isazi
                last edited by 17 Sept 2021, 10:29

                @isazi no, my watch model without a barometer

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                  DRezvoff @Mi_chael
                  last edited by 17 Sept 2021, 10:31

                  @mi_chael I compare climbing readings with other athletes who use Polar or Garmin watches. The total difference in climbing at a distance of 17km differs by 100-200m… That’s a huge difference.

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                    DRezvoff
                    last edited by 17 Sept 2021, 10:45

                    We all ran the same distance together…

                    Here’s the data from my watch, climbing 573m
                    https://www.strava.com/activities/5778881853

                    Here are the data from the clock Polar, climbing 838m
                    https://www.strava.com/activities/5778881853

                    Here is the data from the watch Garmin, climbing 825m
                    https://www.strava.com/activities/5779198526

                    The difference in climb is almost 300 m!!! And this is in an open area, without a forest.

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @DRezvoff
                      last edited by 17 Sept 2021, 13:16

                      @drezvoff non baro devices have this issue on not constant climbs.

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                        DRezvoff @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                        last edited by 20 Sept 2021, 05:29

                        yesterday’s training, the difference in climbing 339m per 30km…

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                        https://www.strava.com/activities/5984102067

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                          sartoric Moderator @DRezvoff
                          last edited by sartoric 20 Sept 2021, 08:23

                          @drezvoff
                          Your watch still has no barometer, I don’t think you’ll see any big improvement keep posting your stravaS 😁

                          eg. https://www.reddit.com/r/Polarfitness/comments/jidk6x/polar_vantage_m_altimeter_measurement_completely/

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                            A Former User @DRezvoff
                            last edited by 20 Sept 2021, 08:42

                            @drezvoff said in Spartan update complains:

                            yesterday’s training, the difference in climbing 339m per 30km…

                            Suunto Spartan Sport WHR
                            https://www.strava.com/activities/5984088835

                            Polar Vintage M
                            https://www.strava.com/activities/5984102067

                            As others said, that device has no barometer. The readings may not be very precise.
                            You can read more about it here or here
                            Also spartan line is kinda known to not have more updates.
                            I think your best bet is to use altitude correction on the platform you use to see your trainings.
                            Also, there will be always difference between brands.

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                              DRezvoff @sartoric
                              last edited by 20 Sept 2021, 10:28

                              @sartoric I hope that the developer will make new software and update the clock. Processing algorithms given from satellites change, accuracy, etc…
                              in the new clock, new algorithms…

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                                DRezvoff @Guest
                                last edited by 20 Sept 2021, 10:32

                                @andré-faria the difference between brands is normal.
                                But when the difference in determining the climb is 300-400m, it’s a lot…
                                software update and it is necessary to apply new modern data processing algorithms in the clock… Suunto did not update the early models, but simply stopped supporting them…

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                                  A Former User @DRezvoff
                                  last edited by 20 Sept 2021, 10:57

                                  @drezvoff said in Spartan update complains:

                                  @sartoric I hope that the developer will make new software and update the clock. Processing algorithms given from satellites change, accuracy, etc…
                                  in the new clock, new algorithms…

                                  Don’t raise your hopes too high…
                                  But only suunto knows…I highly doubt they will update an older watch with new algorythm.
                                  Not only by being old and out of sale, but also due to hardware incompability/testing involved, etc etc

                                  @drezvoff said in Spartan update complains:

                                  @andré-faria the difference between brands is normal.
                                  But when the difference in determining the climb is 300-400m, it’s a lot…
                                  software update and it is necessary to apply new modern data processing algorithms in the clock… Suunto did not update the early models, but simply stopped supporting them…

                                  So which one is correct?
                                  Here is the data of both compared:
                                  spartan vs polar.jpg

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                                    DRezvoff @Guest
                                    last edited by 22 Sept 2021, 03:24

                                    @andré-faria I think the speed is more accurate with Suunto, but Polar writes the height profile more accurately. Although Suunto heights are more accurate

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                                      DRezvoff @DRezvoff
                                      last edited by 3 Dec 2021, 09:52

                                      Suunto Spartan Sport WHR the clock began to lie a lot by climbing… 😠
                                      track from hours climbing by hour 127m
                                      track after correction in Strava climbing by Strava 634m
                                      Error determining height 500m!!! 👿 👿 👿

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                                        DMytro @DRezvoff
                                        last edited by 3 Dec 2021, 10:51

                                        @drezvoff I think it was always the case for nonbaro watches.

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                                          sartoric Moderator @DRezvoff
                                          last edited by sartoric 12 Mar 2021, 11:06 3 Dec 2021, 11:04

                                          @drezvoff
                                          as @DMytro suggested, that kind of small altitude variations mostly creates those “discrepancies” on NON baro watches

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