Nov transition update

[Adam Lantos]

So will Suunto be bold enough to go ahead and update the product page for Ambit3? It currently lists “Connectivity” under Key Features, and is listed as being compatible with iOS and Android. Yet we all know it will stop working in a month. So why wait? Just say it’s cable only until mid-end 2020 or when it’s going to be supported again.

[A Former User]

Honestly I don’t know why this is considered to be good news. If I read this correctly, Movescount will be dead for any newer watches, and everything that is good in Movescount, including the excellent graphing and analysis tools will be killed for everyone. It will be reduced to just the watch configuration tool. That will be a very ugly solution if you ask me because some of the functionality will require a web page plus wired connection to a PC (because MC App will be killed too) and some functionality will require the app. I guess that will be better than nothing for Ambit and Traverse users, but very ugly nevertheless.

That’s not what I hoped. I hoped that the entire UI of Movescount would be left intact but changed to be working on top of SA (SportsTracker) backend, perhaps with some cosmetic changes, and available to new watches. That would make much more sense.

[tomviv]

@mraka I hope it includes POIs & waypoints aswell.

[freeheeler]

@silentvoyager
it is good news compared to what was feared worst…
Suunto still keeps a secret about how MC will look and function… they say they rename it and keep keyfunction. But they don’t say they remove the graphs etc.
It will be cumbersome to only do watch settings in MC and sync by cable and check activities in SA… but maybe that’s what they want?
gently “convince” customers to upgrade.
I would at least expect a good web end if MC only keeps settings functionality.
I mean a good web end, not something like ST.

Maybe QS? I consider this as miles ahead of ST!!
Albeit I don’t see my edited workout description in the list view.
But I started playing around with QS a bit and like what I see there basically

[jsuarez]

@TELE-HO
To me the update is not clear at all in relation to MC web. And the more I read it the more I understand (literal words of the announcement) Mc web will only keep the settings page and only for older legacy non-bluetooth watches. The announcement comes to say that the remainder of MC web, that is, the analysis tools, will go away.

If this is true, to me this is awful news.

In case I eventually decide to change boat (I feel like Suunto is REALLY making me do it) I have been uploading my most recent moves to Garmin connect. It is a nice web but I have not been able to find my most beloved feature of MC web: annual progress. In any case, by the looks of it all, it seems that annual progress will fade away so I’m screwed anyway…

So, please, Suunto, explain yourself clear and do it as soon as possible. You owe it to your current customers.

[jsuarez]

@TELE-HO Funny thing is that QS is a hobby project and it is beating Suunto App’s / ST’s current offerings, which are backed by a company selling sports watches. So sad.

[freeheeler]

@jsuarez
crazy what a smart guy who is interested can do… in his freetime… between sports, work and family

[tomviv]

@jsuarez what is QS and how can I find it?

[freeheeler]

@tomviv
https://quantified-self.io/home
look and enjoy… you can upload one or two activities for test or do a history import

[nseslija]

@TELE-HO @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos did a great job… I can also recommend https://runalyze.com/dashboard, great free tool…

[jsuarez]

@TELE-HO said in Nov transition update:

@jsuarez
crazy what a smart guy who is interested can do… in his freetime… between sports, work and family

Totally agree. It really embarrasses other commercial efforts…

What the heck, QS even has a dark mode available for you to choose. Hats off to @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos !

[freeheeler]

@nseslija
at the moment I have a rather inactive time… but I think I will work with Strava/Elevation and QS.
In QS I miss the comparison between years or month (or I did not find them yet) and the activity description… and maybe selection in the graph to show parameters applicable for the selection
all other values that I like are there

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@TELE-HO just use all (on the search) you will get a sort by years to compare.

The above are fake data dont get excited

[freeheeler]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
nice!! I’ll try that, thank you!
so far my history did not get imported, maybe I did something wrong, it’s still dating back to 13.Jan 2018, nothing before… but I guess it can take some time, right?

[freeheeler]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
alright, and select date type, of course

[Mff73]

@TELE-HO said in Nov transition update:

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
alright, and select date type, of course

fake data as well

[freeheeler]

@Mff73

[freeheeler]

@Mff73 said in Nov transition update:

fake data as well

now it’s correct… sorry, I’ve still had one comparing activity in QS from my A3PS.
I noticed that merged activities don’t add more meters to the summary which is a great solution! Either you just want to compare or you want to merge because you want to see several activities within one view.
I could recommend that to my sister in law who cycled all the way from Switzerland to the Black Sea thru Greece and Italy back home…

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@TELE-HO there is even a setting if you want the merges to count towards.
In QS an “event” consists from many activities.
If you have merged 2 activities that event is a merge.

But it could have been a multisport and that would have counted correctly.

You can edit a merged event and remove the “merge” flag and it will count.

FYI

[tomviv]

@TELE-HO thx!!