Future S9 firmware wishlist summary

Fenr1r · 7 Nov 2019, 13:13

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Brad_Olwin · 7 Nov 2019, 16:29

@Fenr1r said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

@Brad_Olwin As stated above (a few times):

Well aware of the apps. The thread’s about FW for the watch. My particular insane wish is for the watch to do navigation things the A3P and the Fenix series do (minus the latter’s maps). Without having to haul out and fire up a phone that might be in a rucksack, etc.

So I don’t understand what you are missing? Once waypoints and POIs are implemented (assuming we can name them) what more would you need. The fenix can plot a route on the watch but not the A3P and the A3P cannot calculate or display distance along a route, only in a straight line to the next waypoint. I found that essentially useless, so waypoints on A3P were not as good as the dual app solution we have now for the S-series.

Fenr1r · 7 Nov 2019, 17:52

@Brad_Olwin Short version: I’ve nothing against the Dual App Solution (worst prog rock band ever). It is just that the watch could be more. Navigationally, the Fenix is. In remote areas, why require a second potential tech failure point? Or drain two batteries via BT (and a display) rather than one.

Longer version I’ve PM’d to avoid clogging this thread. Bit of a screed but explains the usage cases/arguments.

Fatih Kale · 7 Nov 2019, 20:26

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Fatih Kale · 7 Nov 2019, 20:27

@TELE-HO said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

while I enjoy the latest S9 firmware, I don’t want to make an ungrateful impression…
But I’d like that we summarize some suggestions as a list…

light button in watch/activity mode (no unlocking)

lockbutton in watch mode (e. g. 3sec press)

swipe left-right to flip screens in activity

toggle satellite systems on-off independently

HR info (and pace?) in navigation screen

longer duration of vibration for alarm

FW update by bluetooth and SA

blood oxygen saturation (in case Valencell is ready for this?)

anything else?!

Just a little addition

On Navigation Screen
Data Field for “Distance covered / Total distance (If route is used)”

freeheeler · 11 Oct 2019, 11:32

I know I mentioned a proper lock in watchmode already… this becomes more relevant in wintertime I noticed today.
During summer I only need to lock my watch in activities to prevent unwanted button press while I’m working hard
… but in winter I use gloves everyday and sleeves of winterjackets are also bulky… all these help to do unwanted button press…
I know by own experience that scandinavians only wear hats and gloves when it starts getting cold (like - 20°C) but it would be cool to add this before winter is over

freeheeler · 10 Nov 2019, 15:48

… this lock in watch mode would be also good when for swimming in the lake or pool… because I was in watch mode and wanted to switch from alti to battery icon I had to “unlock” the screen.
But then the touch does never get deactivated because water keeps the touch active and the auto “lock” never kicks in.
locking manually would really help here

freeheeler · 17 Nov 2019, 15:06

showing a flashing heart symbol next to HR value in the rhythm as HR is measured as a possibility to double check if OHR is measured correctly

BKtoo · 22 Nov 2019, 15:52

@TELE-HO the light buttom in exercise is solved in option-battery- custom battery- touch screen. Then you just tap the screen to make the light go on fore some sek.

freeheeler · 22 Nov 2019, 16:04

@KnutB
I wish for a light button in watch mode and a manual lock button in watch mode…
and while I think of my original post and swipe left-right is possible it would be good to make swipe possible in activity mode even when buttons are locked…
or long story short: make a toggle to choose if you like to lock only buttons, only touch or both

A Former User · 22 Nov 2019, 16:48

@KnutB said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

@TELE-HO the light buttom in exercise is solved in option-battery- custom battery- touch screen. Then you just tap the screen to make the light go on fore some sek.

Until it rains… Good luck with using the touch screen when it is wet.

freeheeler · 22 Nov 2019, 16:53

@silentvoyager
that’s why lock should be possible to toggle for buttons and/or touch

maybe long press lower button lock buttons and longpress upper button lock touch?

BKtoo · 22 Nov 2019, 18:41

@TELE-HO think the best thing would be that the first push of the middle button activates light. Next press activates screen switching (same as in clock mode)

Brad_Olwin · 22 Nov 2019, 19:28

@KnutB said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

@TELE-HO think the best thing would be that the first push of the middle button activates light. Next press activates screen switching (same as in clock mode)

I think this is a bad idea as those (me) wanting long battery life would be activating the light a lot and battery life for long events would be seriously affected. Sorry, but I think the negatives for this are far worse than positives.

freeheeler · 22 Nov 2019, 19:47

@Brad_Olwin
that is also true…
in general it would be good to have more customization of button behaviour. I see a lot of people have different requirements even for the basically same type of sport.
I noticed that I will not need switch on and off lights during an activity. If I go for a run at night 30% backlight permanent on is plenty of light to see the display even with a blinding/reflecting headlamp.
Right now I do a batterylife test with 24h HR and standby light on. (it seems standby light is what it is and not adjustable?)
But for me it’s good enough without the standby light.

BKtoo · 22 Nov 2019, 19:55

@Brad_Olwin but the backlight is activated anyway when you push the middle button. So I can see that the battery drain will increase? The only difference is that the first push on the middle button does not enable display switching, but only backlight.

stromdiddily · 23 Nov 2019, 17:53

Improved notification process
Dismiss/delete notification from the watch itself
Not repeat notifications if a new one comes in and the previous had not been cleared on the phone
Improved contrast for navigation lines when theme is set to “light” (blue works well against black but is a bit tough with a white background)
Configurable nav screen (related to yours above but personally care more about duration/distance/lap pace)

freeheeler · 19 Dec 2019, 21:12

and now something completely different…
… sync on demand?
… lock in watch mode?

hope there will soon be another FW update…
meanwhile I am more looking forward for FW updates than SA updates

freeheeler · 19 Dec 2019, 21:30

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos can we merge these threads?
https://forum.suunto.com/topic/2032/s9-baro-wishlist/101

A Former User · 19 Dec 2019, 21:57

Still waiting on a fix for broken navigation arrows. Navigation must stick much much better to the planned route and not change it at will.
Zooming navigation screen in locked mode.
An option for choosing between smart recording and true one second recording per sport mode. 1 second recording should also ensure updating the distance every second.
More accurate calculation of vertical ascent and descent. The latest firmware did that the wrong way in my opinion.
Custom sport modes must inherit settings like GPS mode and breadcrumbs from the base sport modes they are created from. We shouldn’t have to use custom battery modes to turn GPS off because we don’t have to do that for the basic sport modes.
Breadcrumbs customizable per sport mode rather than globally as it is currently.
Remove popup about the watch being locked and replace it with a smaller permanently visible icon. That will allow e. g. to use the lower button for backlight.
Add confirmation for changing battery modes by the upper button. Pressing the upper button should bring a list of all power modes. That will work much better for users who are color blind and for everyone else who change the power modes accidentally all the time.
Add zooming for HR and elevation graphs and remember the zoom level per sport mode. That will finally make those graphs usable. Zooming will change the time scale. Bonus points for allowing the zoom controls to work in locked mode.
Add extra navigation screen for the next waypoint and/or end of the route. The screen should display all necessary details like remaining distance on route (or off route when not on route), waypoint name, elevation difference, ETA/ETE, etc. See below for my proposal for switching between navigation views.
Since there may be up to 3 navigation specific views I propose to move them out of the main screen rotation by the middle button and replace that with a single navigation screen with 3 views: route / breadcrumbs, elevation profile, and waypoint details. Switching between navigation views should be done by pressing the lower button. And accessing the navigation menu - by long press on the lower button.
When not in activity, allow users to stay in all non-menu screens for as long as needed - HR, altitude, steps, etc. Or at least add an option for the timeout before jumping back to the main screen.

We need more options to customize the watch the way we want to use it and not the way someone in Suunto decided for us. Do you see a pattern here? A lot of feature requests here are about adding more options for already existing features.