Future S9 firmware wishlist summary

Frederic

@brad_olwin Not sure what’s confusing…
Indeed, I can and do lock the buttons but having the watch lock automatically would be even “nicer”

Frederic

@brad_olwin In my mind, it would only lock if you have chosen so in the watch preferences. So that should not impact users like you that want the watch to remain unlocked.
But again, I’ve asked since 2018 to have the capability to lock the watch when not recording an activity and I’m still holding my breath so that might also be a “pie in the sky” kind of wish list item…

darxmurf

Hi all,

Don’t want to rain on your party but are those “wishlist” posts really useful?
I was quite optimistic when I arrived in the community a bit more than one year ago, proposed new features and all on another wishlist topic. There was tons of other good propositions from other folks but in the end nothing of that was added in the 2 last firmware. And I’m not talking here about huge modifications or features but simple and useful things.

My Baro 9 is doing it’s job but it’s quite sad to see how the Suunto team is not taking much care of new features/watch upgrades or community propositions. Yes they released new watches but what’s the point here? Do we need to buy a new one every 6 months to get new features?

DMytro

@darxmurf it’s semi-useful I think. You suggest feature and suunto may implement then in some way or the other. Take a look at resolved feature requests for SA, quite a few of those I must say.
Watch also has gotten some improvements from users feedback.
It may be more difficult to implement suggestions because normally the plans of the company are laid out few years in advance, so it’s difficult to make short term changes.
Also, suunto released a new flagship model for the first time in 3 years, how is it 6 month?

Mister PYC

@dmytro

Hello Dimitrios

Just to share my personnal experience … even if it is a little bit far from just SUUNTO matters

I’m indeed an IT program manager in a big elecronic Cie (I cannot disclose the name but it is a blue logo with just 2 letters)

During 7 years, I was in charge of a huge IT program for which we were organizing every quarter a BITA (business IT alignment) … One day one of my big friend but on BIZ side challenged us in front of every body in one of this meeting telling us this : “you IT are totally inefficient … and I will prove it … I asked you to change the color of an information and put it in the official blue to emphasis it … it was long time ago … I’m sure it is a 5 minutes action for you, no-one refuse it but still it is open in the list since now 2 years) … so … you are totally inefficient !!!”

I realized he was super right … our approach was always to ask the BIZ to prioritize their point as there wer far more request than our capacity (it is always like this no ?) … and this small stupid points were always at P9 … so never taken …

Since that time I changed my approach … now I play a TETRIS game with business … the size of it is the nbr of days * nb of ressource to reach next release … we valuate each CR … and the target it so fill it … if there is some small place left … then we may take bungh of very small points that may not have a P1 or P2 … P3 priority but are super fast to do

I’m sure Suunto DEV team is acting the same … so I remain confident that what we may propose, if we are able to show that there are not difficult to be done … could be taken … so I’m optimistic

Tetris Game applyed to projects.png

isazi

@darxmurf all the features of the new watch that were not based on hardware have been ported to your S9 too. So no need to buy a new watch. Unless you want to buy a new watch.

surfboomerang

@isazi Except the white watch faces

isazi

@surfboomerang yeah not sure if that is permanent or not. Often a watch has a distinctive watch face (and in this case color) that remains not accessible to previous models, although all watches got the S3 watch face recently, so it may change.

freeheeler

@mister-pyc
wow, you are crazy, man this looks like agile sprint management for the experienced

@darxmurf
I have a Schrödingers feeling about user feedback and how Suunto handles it… first of all: I did give feedback some years ago to Garmin. None of it, but absolutely nothing has been implemented. And it was simple stuff on their Connect page.
I noticed Suunto meets my demands much better, watch and homepage wize (ok, the last we all know went down the sewer…) but I changed to A3P, had the much better watch and saw the data I wanted.
I upgraded to S9B, saw room for improvement on the S9B and SA, mentioned it every now and then and I would say that some of it has been considered and implemented. I must confess that one thing has been implemented that I have never expected to be solved for the next watch: baro holes position. Check where they are in S9P: perfectly placed. No chance for covering them to give wrong readings. This requires a lot of work and is only possible for new models, of cours.
On the other hand, there are simple things, like a lock function in watch mode that haven’t been implemented yet… I might be wrong when saying “simple”… in my imagination it is simple, since A3P had this function in watch AND activity mode and S9B does only have it in activity mode.

My summary: if you don’t mention great ideas no one will know about it. If you mention them and they are implemented: jackpot! If you mention them and they are ignored, maybe the product manager has different plans, keeps it for a new model etc…

I notice in general that there are companies that do their thing and others they observe market needs and listen. I think Suunto listens but they do not over react on each idea.

freeheeler

@isazi said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

Unless you want to buy a new watch.

…or you want a 99.9% security to not get blocked baro holes

isazi

And just to say it again, posts with wishlists or suggestions are not obligations for Suunto. Suunto gets reports from this, but this is one of many channels they have. Surveys are another public way they have to gather data (and probably with more answers than in the forum), and then there must be all the usual industry stuff like to gather ideas. And after all of this, the decisions are for the management to take.

Mister PYC

@freeheeler said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

lock function in watch mod

I would say …
I really hope that Suunto dev are reading us and onsidere our ideas …
but in the same time … as I say when I’m on the other side of the street and a IT man … BIZ people are very imaginative …

Let’s see …

My dreams

better watch faces for visually impaired people
https://forum.suunto.com/topic/6668/a-new-configuration-large-fonts-to-improve-readibility-or-for-visually-impaired-peoplepyc
Possibility to reorganize the menus and also have more interresting menus when clicking on the central button
=> see here https://forum.suunto.com/topic/6728/watch-face-improvement-synthesis-
Compass easier to be access and also during exercise
ANGEL mode
https://forum.suunto.com/topic/6767/angel-mode-when-your-watch-detect-you-are-lost-and-are-out-of-route/46
A new naviation possibility to WAY POINTS (1st and last of a GPX then may be the others)
https://forum.suunto.com/topic/6689/better-display-to-select-pois-why-not-having-libraries-of-pois-to-group-them

freeheeler

@isazi said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

posts with wishlists or suggestions are not obligations for Suunto

absolutely, it’s a wishlist and not an order agenda
we’ve bought the watches as they were offered. anything on top is the whipped cream (if someone likes whipped cream…)

Mister PYC

@freeheeler said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

whipped cream

Well well wel I’m not fan of whipped cream … but a giant lemon icecream … why not !!!

freeheeler

@mister-pyc
me neither… I like the pure thing… reduced to the essential

suzzlo

@mister-pyc We follow SAFe framework and there is already a method to include “small” features in the backlog top (just if they have value for the customers)

https://www.scaledagileframework.com/wsjf/

BR

renton82

Please fix the zombie notification!

TheGuyFromTheSummit

@renton82
Yesss, please!

Mister PYC

@suzzlo
Excellent !!!
So let’s hope my suggestions will be appreciated and then … not too big

freeheeler

@freeheeler said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

FW update by bluetooth and SA
blood oxygen saturation (in case Valencell is ready for this?)

these 2 wishes have been implemented in S9P. Moderators, I think we can close this thread. Future wishes can be suggested for S9P and if hardware allows, it might eventually come to S9B, too