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    MiniForklift Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
    last edited by MiniForklift 17 Sept 2021, 22:11

    @brad_olwin said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

    @miniforklift If you chose the right watch face you can have this displayed continuously.

    Sorry, I was meaning to have the option to have battery percentage as a data field on an activity screen

    I do have it showing on my daily watchface

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      MdzOtt @DMytro
      last edited by 18 Sept 2021, 03:02

      @dmytro I bought an early Garmin that had a touchable bezel. Took it for a day of skiing and the watch started and stopped the exercise, reset itself and did a lot of things all without any involvement on my part. I returned it the next day.

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        suzzlo Moderator @Patrick Löffler
        last edited by 18 Sept 2021, 07:26

        @patrick-löffler said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

        he told me that the upcoming Suunto product was planned for a September/October delivery but is delayed to early 2022.

        Sad 😞

        Let’s hope he is wrong

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          northeast_trekker Bronze Member @sky-runner
          last edited by 18 Sept 2021, 15:53

          @sky-runner actually I forgot that the main consideration for live segments for Suunto might not be hardware limitations but actually how they get the segments into the Suunto watches. If I recall only Garmin, Wahoo, and Polar have these and they likely have to pay Strava for the API/data sharing on the native apps. So it might actually be more of a calculated ROI decision than a hardware limitation at present; I suspect a lot of S9 users are also into strava segments so honestly it seems like a no brainer to me but then again I’m not a market research analyst so I might not know all the facts…in terms of sheer count of units sold I think Garmin v Suunto (for example) is very different so that might have something to do with this particular type of feature.

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            pavel.samokha @northeast_trekker
            last edited by 18 Sept 2021, 17:05

            @northeast_trekker to me personally it’s interesting if those who want strava segments on the watch are willing to pay subscription fee for such feature, and how much?
            I assume subscription would benefit all parties - users who need segments, users who don’t, strava, suunto.

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              TonyG Silver Members @pavel.samokha
              last edited by TonyG 18 Sept 2021, 17:21

              @pavel-samokha I enjoy competing with myself using strava segments but I wouldn’t pay anymore than I already do, to have them live on my watch, I am happy to wait until I look at my transferred data to see how I have done! Having to pay third party companies to get the best out of my watch would be a put off for me, kinda already is.
              might be slightly off topic but also slightly on-topic:
              It already urks / niggles me that this was the proposed / suggested route suunto was taking when they shut down movescount, and some folk suggested we pay third party companies to get some of the analysis / information that we would be loosing when movescount was shut down, and I have in fact had to do that with strava, I would have considered paying suunto the fee i pay to strava to keep the web based movescount and the information / analysis it provided: (Maybe)! no doubt I still would have been upset to have to pay a subscription to suunto to get the best out of a product that I already paid for!!! tricky one regardless…

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                MiniForklift Platinum Member @pavel.samokha
                last edited by MiniForklift 18 Sept 2021, 21:32

                @pavel-samokha said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                @northeast_trekker to me personally it’s interesting if those who want strava segments on the watch are willing to pay subscription fee for such feature, and how much?

                I don’t know if many would pay a fee if they’re already available on other watches at no additional charge? My training partner switched from his S9B to the Garmin Enduro and the Enduro have live segments for Strava was one of the main reasons. I think it’s cool but for me personally it wouldn’t be enough to make me want to switch brands

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                  sky-runner Silver Members @MiniForklift
                  last edited by sky-runner 18 Sept 2021, 21:50

                  @miniforklift Right, there is no additional fee. Strava premium subscription covers that already.

                  As someone who uses Strava live segments on a Garmin watch regularly, I wanted to mention that the implementation, sadly, leaves a lot to be desired. I am primarily a trail runner, and live segments are extremely unreliable on trails. For a long live segment, a probability of my Fenix dropping of it somewhere in a middle is nearly 100%. Plus, Strava restricts downhill segments from being synced to devices, and downhill means anything more than negative 0.25%, which is pretty ridiculous for running. It seems Strava had implemented that restriction because of a couple tragic incidents involving cyclists, but they blindly extended the same restriction to all sports.

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                    pavel.samokha @MiniForklift
                    last edited by pavel.samokha 18 Sept 2021, 23:57

                    @miniforklift said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                    I don’t know if many would pay a fee if they’re already available on other watches at no additional charge?

                    I assume that there is always additional charge for functions like this - manufacturers should pay Strava for live segments, there is no free breakfast.
                    So this price is either included into the watch price for all customers (vast majority of them doesn’t care about strava segments) or only users who really need the feature pay some additional subscription fee for that.

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                      DMytro
                      last edited by 19 Sept 2021, 05:00

                      By the way, EU now considers making 7 years of software updates or at least security updates mandatory for all phones. It’s only a matter of time that something similar comes up for sport- and smartwatches. Thus, I think, payments for updates are inevitable.

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                        freeheeler @DMytro
                        last edited by 19 Sept 2021, 07:06

                        @dmytro said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                        EU now considers making 7 years of software updates

                        this would be a great step for sustainability 👍

                        living sideways

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                          Kostas Zinelis Bronze Member
                          last edited by Kostas Zinelis 21 Sept 2021, 18:55

                          It would be nice to a future S9 baro firmware to have the option:

                          1. to calibrate the compass during an exercise (because on many occasions I’ve witnessed discallibrations during long hikes and open swimming exercises).
                          2. to go back to main face during an exercise (because some info like date cannot be shown at any exercise face)
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                            DMytro @Kostas Zinelis
                            last edited by 21 Sept 2021, 19:17

                            @kostas-zinelis maybe it would be better/easier to implement if the date would be shown during pause instead? HR, time, duration are already accessible during a pause.

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                              Frederic Bronze Member @MiniForklift
                              last edited by Frederic 21 Sept 2021, 21:37

                              @miniforklift said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                              Sorry, I was meaning to have the option to have battery percentage as a data field on an activity screen

                              I do have it showing on my daily watchface

                              It would be great but until that is implemented (and if it is…), what I do is that I start unlocking my watch (except I don’t) and the unlocking screen shows the current battery percentage

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                                DMytro
                                last edited by 14 Dec 2021, 16:07

                                http://www.awsode.com/case-suunto.html
                                This was never implemented, was it?

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                                  suzzlo Moderator @DMytro
                                  last edited by 14 Dec 2021, 19:31

                                  @dmytro never seen that in my Spartan, but who knows, the design is still valid

                                  BR

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                                    MiniForklift Platinum Member @Frederic
                                    last edited by 14 Dec 2021, 19:33

                                    @frederic Same. At least it is accessible, would just be nice to have it visible without having to press any buttons 👍

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                                      Stas Varazhbit @DMytro
                                      last edited by 15 Dec 2021, 07:08

                                      @dmytro said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                                      http://www.awsode.com/case-suunto.html
                                      This was never implemented, was it?

                                      Turns out Suunto was addressing the issue of interval training for the Spartan series back in 2017, but never implemented it. That’s too bad.😞 But there’s still hope.

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                                        freeheeler @Stas Varazhbit
                                        last edited by freeheeler 15 Dec 2021, 08:39

                                        @stas-varazhbit
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                                        I’m holding on to my S9B, sending it in for button repair today and hope that the lock function in watch mode will be implemented some day 🙂 ✊
                                        I don’t use structured intervals very often, but I see the sense for having it 👍

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                                          DMytro @freeheeler
                                          last edited by 15 Dec 2021, 09:01

                                          @freeheeler they just return you a watch with no buttons - problem solved XD

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