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    johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Dwartus
    last edited by johann.fuehrer 21 Nov 2020, 15:07

    @Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:

    So, you confirm that is not possible with Suunto watch (either Ambit2, nor Spartan, nor Suunto9 Baro) to receive speed data from a smart trainer ??

    I have tried really hard for getting A2, A3 and S9B work, I did not make it for all data (Speed, Distance, Cadence, Power) on this watches. For Spartan I cannot tell as I had one but could not try with my trainer, as I sold it for the S9B.

    BR

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      Dwartus
      last edited by 21 Nov 2020, 17:41

      @johann-fuehrer I have read your other topic.
      Your smart trainer Tacx Neo is able to send Power, Cadence and Speed by Bluetooth ?

      Your S9Baro is able to catch Cadence and Speed from the Tacx Neo by using paire a « Bike POD » ?

      Thanks

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Bulkan
        last edited by 21 Nov 2020, 17:48

        @Bulkan didn’t run gap fix those issues?

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          Dwartus @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by 21 Nov 2020, 18:51

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

          Hello Dimitrios,

          Does Rungap has an issue to sync activity from Zwift to Suunto App ??

          Thanks

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            Bulkan Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
            last edited by 21 Nov 2020, 20:28

            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos yes, all the issues are solved, even one where the temperature wrong. Now works pretty well. The “issue” is if you use zwift or any other app for virtual cycling right now there isn’t any watch which use the data of zwift (speed, ascend…) while you are riding. Is not and issue for me because I transfer the fitfile from training peaks to SuuntoApp with RunGap.

            @Dwartus if you want a web service to summarize everything I recommend you quantied-slef, works pretty well and you can have all the data which is in the watches.

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              johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Dwartus
              last edited by johann.fuehrer 21 Nov 2020, 22:04

              @Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:

              @johann-fuehrer I have read your other topic.
              Your smart trainer Tacx Neo is able to send Power, Cadence and Speed by Bluetooth ?

              Yes, and Garmin and Polar Devices catch up all of them

              Your S9Baro is able to catch Cadence and Speed from the Tacx Neo by using paire a « Bike POD » ?

              Thanks

              Yes. But no Power, although it is found as PowerPod when I attach search for devices, when starting the workout, no connection is made anymore… Same for A3. Seems to be a BT issue.

              What I want is: Power, Speed, Cadence and Distance from the trainer. I was not able to configure this with any Suunto device (A2, A3, S9B) but even my old V800 makes it. And I’m not even talking about parallel connection to the computer for Zwift, Rouvy, Sufferfest or whatsoever! All other stuff was disabled, turned off and out of reach (needed for STRYD pod which can mess up your setting because of being on always 😉 )

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                Dwartus @Bulkan
                last edited by Dwartus 22 Nov 2020, 07:42

                @Bulkan thank you for information.
                Does « Quantified self » can be use as Movescount was (history of activities, tags, training effect performed by FirstBeat or other (TSS as example) ?

                Do you have a short comparaison of rungap//quantifed self ?
                Is it same functionnalities ?

                thanks

                I created a new topic within Spartan regarding smart trainer and data sync not possible.
                But lots of interest things on this topic, thanks to all !!!
                Are you able to delete the new topic in Spartan group ?

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                  johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Dwartus
                  last edited by 22 Nov 2020, 08:02

                  @Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:

                  @Bulkan thank you for information.
                  Does « Quantified self » can be use as Movescount was (history of activities, tags, training effect performed by FirstBeat or other (TSS as example) ?

                  Do you have a short comparaison of rungap//quantifed self ?
                  Is it same functionnalities ?

                  thanks

                  I created a new topic within Spartan regarding smart trainer and data sync not possible.
                  But lots of interest things on this topic, thanks to all !!!
                  Are you able to delete the new topic in Spartan group ?

                  Hello, I think for QS @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos would be THE source of knowledge 😉 You will find out, why…

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                    Dwartus @johann.fuehrer
                    last edited by 22 Nov 2020, 08:03

                    @johann-fuehrer I think a smart trainer (Tacx, Wahoo, …) will send Power, Cadence and Speed but not a distance, the distance will be calculate by device (watch or GPS), isn’t it ?

                    It’s really strange because the Wahoo Kickr core, send also Power, Cadence and Speed (receive by Wahoo app and Garmin), with A2 and Spartan I can’t receive Cadence and Speed, but Power is possible. And you is clearly the opposite…

                    Do you know if Suunto work on this issue ??

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                      johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Dwartus
                      last edited by 22 Nov 2020, 08:08

                      @Dwartus No idea if Suunto is seeing this even as an issue or is working on a fix. Distance could be calculated if a wheel size (virtual) is configureable for such trainers and the watch will do so. Never will be like in real live, but as a rough estimation it would be ok…

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                        Dwartus @johann.fuehrer
                        last edited by 23 Nov 2020, 13:43

                        @johann-fuehrer Your S9Baro is 2.12.30 software version ??
                        I’m always thinking of buying a S9Baro …

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                          johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Dwartus
                          last edited by 23 Nov 2020, 14:54

                          @Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:

                          @johann-fuehrer Your S9Baro is 2.12.30 software version ??
                          I’m always thinking of buying a S9Baro …

                          Yes, it was…

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                            Bulkan Moderator @johann.fuehrer
                            last edited by 23 Nov 2020, 18:15

                            @johann-fuehrer I recall something about the bluetooth of the Neo smart, about the broadcasting of all the data via bluetooth but I didn’t find it to bring it here. That problem with ant+ isn’t there. What you can try is cable which converts the ant+ signal to bluetooth.

                            I own the version 1 of the Neo and I don’t paired the Suunto to the trainer, I use zwift. I prefer to have all the info and I enjoy it more. At the beginning I recorded in the suunto as a indoor cycling but unpaired to the trainer… but I don’t do it anymore.

                            About QS it doesn’t have TSS. If you want training load, check out runanalyze or Strava free account with the extension called elevate in Chrome.

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                              Dwartus
                              last edited by Dwartus 24 Nov 2020, 12:39

                              Hello, thanks for information regarding Quantified Self, I will have a look on the dedicate post, and also try to create an account to play with.

                              Regarding the main topic, that the watch (A2 or Spartan or Suunto 9) doesn’t catch all signals comes from smart trainer (Power, speed and cadence), does someone of Suunto teams can give support here or maybe give timeline to solve it ??

                              Unfortunately, Garmin and Polar catch all signals form smart trainer.

                              Thank you

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                                isazi Moderator @Dwartus
                                last edited by 24 Nov 2020, 13:32

                                @Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:

                                Regarding the main topic, that the watch (A2 or Spartan or Suunto 9) doesn’t catch all signals comes from smart trainer (Power, speed and cadence), does someone of Suunto teams can give support here or maybe give timeline to solve it ??

                                Better contact Suunto directly for that. Have you asked support?

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                                  Dwartus @isazi
                                  last edited by 24 Nov 2020, 15:46

                                  @isazi Yes, I’ve done two phone call and one email traffic -> no answer.
                                  At the second phone call, Suunto support say me that “they never tested Wahoo and Tacx with Suunto”.
                                  Sorry, but I don’t know really if they understand sometimes…

                                  Does someone here work in Suunto R&D departement or something like that ??

                                  Thanks

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                                    isazi Moderator @Dwartus
                                    last edited by 24 Nov 2020, 15:49

                                    @Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:

                                    Does someone here work in Suunto R&D departement or something like that ??

                                    I am aware of two Suunto developers (app and backend I guess) in the forum. Not sure if any firmware developer is here.

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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                                      last edited by 25 Nov 2020, 12:44

                                      So I raised this issue.

                                      I am not sure when this can be improved to be honest but now the R&D + PO teams are aware of this. Thank you

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                                        Dwartus
                                        last edited by 30 Nov 2020, 15:31

                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos thank you for your help.
                                        Do you know if Suunto confirm this trouble or will work on it ? or just they received claim ?

                                        As you know I’m in a way to buy a Suunto 9, but I would like to know if this issue will be solve or not before buy it… (I have other question task to be check as example disable the wrist HR definitevly to avoid battery consumption during day working, compatible H10/TickrX, …)

                                        Thank you

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                                          isazi Moderator @Dwartus
                                          last edited by 30 Nov 2020, 15:41

                                          @Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:

                                          (I have other question task to be check as example disable the wrist HR definitevly to avoid battery consumption during day working, compatible H10/TickrX, …)

                                          You can disable 24h heart rate monitor, and H10/TickrX heart rate monitor are compatible, but if you are interested in more discussion about these topics search the forum or write a new post 🙂

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