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S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?

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    surfboomerang @hgavert
    last edited by 30 Dec 2019, 13:00

    @hgavert It is in the watch. if you enter your max HR, it asks you if you want to adjust your zones automatically.
    I don’t know what model Suunto has based it’s zones on, but you can always adjust your zones manually if you like.

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      hgavert Bronze Member @surfboomerang
      last edited by 30 Dec 2019, 13:19

      @surfboomerang said in S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?:

      @hgavert It is in the watch. if you enter your max HR, it asks you if you want to adjust your zones automatically.
      I don’t know what model Suunto has based it’s zones on, but you can always adjust your zones manually if you like.

      Yeah, I should probably set them manually, but I haven’t had the time to look up how to calculate reasonable values.

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        surfboomerang
        last edited by 30 Dec 2019, 13:27

        one of many theories…
        https://www.suunto.com/fy-nl/sports/News-Articles-container-page/Figure-out-your-training-zones-and-supercharge-your-fitness/

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          hgavert Bronze Member @surfboomerang
          last edited by 31 Dec 2019, 12:35

          @surfboomerang said in S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?:

          https://www.suunto.com/fy-nl/sports/News-Articles-container-page/Figure-out-your-training-zones-and-supercharge-your-fitness/

          Thanks, that was interesting read! I will try that test maybe next summer if my foot allows me to run. However, I went back to the watch and toggled the max HR and finally when I found the clear or default settings, then it changed the zones to something more reasonable. Still based on the max HR of course.

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            Brad_Olwin Moderator @hgavert
            last edited by 1 Jan 2020, 13:52

            @hgavert Your zones are clearly off. Zone 5 is for interval efforts, most cannot maintain HR in zone 5 for very long. For an setting based on effort, Zone 1 you should be able to converse easily, and talk as long as you want. Zone 2 you will need to breathe more and that will interrupt conversation some. Zone 3 a sentence, Zone 4 a couple words and Zone 5 is difficult to speak at all.

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
              last edited by 1 Jan 2020, 14:20

              In theory you cannot stay in zone 5 for more than 5mins without throwing up

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                ink357
                last edited by 12 Jan 2020, 08:51

                Hi!
                After the first time is vo2max calculated with all sports or just with walking and running?

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                  isazi Moderator @ink357
                  last edited by 12 Jan 2020, 13:29

                  @ink357 just walking and running activities.

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                    lost_today Bronze Member @hgavert
                    last edited by 12 Jan 2020, 15:52

                    @hgavert hi there.
                    I was having same problem as you. But I have 2.10.26. Which is latest. But it was still not working. I did a hard reset today. And then a run. And now it’s working well. It is a bit of a pain doing hard reset and then setting up watch again. But worth it to get feature working

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                      lost_today Bronze Member @ink357
                      last edited by 12 Jan 2020, 15:54

                      @ink357 hi
                      I asked suunto help centre about this.
                      You need to do walk/run for calibration but after this your levels should change doing any exercise type.
                      I have just done calibration today. So I have not tested this yet. But will let you know results mi week.

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                        ink357
                        last edited by 12 Jan 2020, 16:04

                        I’ve just made a 2 hours walk exercice but no vo2max estimated 😕
                        It was a personalized exercice, do you think i have to calibrate with basic walk or run mode ?

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                          lost_today Bronze Member @ink357
                          last edited by 12 Jan 2020, 16:10

                          @ink357 that could be the problem
                          I would do a hard reset. That’s what I did this morning then it basic run and got my fitness level

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                            ink357
                            last edited by 12 Jan 2020, 16:17

                            The watch is not a new, i wanted to try the new functions. Now i’ll make a hard reset with all new settings

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                              sartoric Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by sartoric 1 Dec 2020, 17:13 12 Jan 2020, 17:13

                              @ink357

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?:

                              To get VO2max you need good HR readings and a bit of effort (go to zone 2+ ) from my experience

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                                ink357
                                last edited by 12 Jan 2020, 17:39

                                I think HR was good because there is no loses.

                                I’ve made a hard reset… and lost my personalized exercises 😰

                                How to add basic exercises in the watch ? Just make one and it will add ? Or i need to do that in SA ?

                                Let’s try tomorrow !

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                                  freeheeler @ink357
                                  last edited by 12 Jan 2020, 17:59

                                  @ink357
                                  it’s a great disadvantage that sport mode customization is not stored and backed up in SA!

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                                    ink357 @lost_today
                                    last edited by 19 Jan 2020, 13:05

                                    @lost_today said in S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?:

                                    @ink357 hi
                                    I asked suunto help centre about this.
                                    You need to do walk/run for calibration but after this your levels should change doing any exercise type.
                                    I have just done calibration today. So I have not tested this yet. But will let you know results mi week.

                                    Are you sure ? I finally got a vo2max estimated last thursday. But today after my ride in bike mode no changes. It was a 1 hour ride and i went in the 5 zone of HR.

                                    Someone can confirm that the vo2max estimated will change after every exercices in all sports mode ?

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                                      cosme.costa @ink357
                                      last edited by 19 Jan 2020, 15:16

                                      @ink357 said in S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?:

                                      @lost_today said in S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?:

                                      @ink357 hi
                                      I asked suunto help centre about this.
                                      You need to do walk/run for calibration but after this your levels should change doing any exercise type.
                                      I have just done calibration today. So I have not tested this yet. But will let you know results mi week.

                                      Are you sure ? I finally got a vo2max estimated last thursday. But today after my ride in bike mode no changes. It was a 1 hour ride and i went in the 5 zone of HR.

                                      Someone can confirm that the vo2max estimated will change after every exercices in all sports mode ?

                                      I think only works with running activities.

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                                        ink357
                                        last edited by 19 Jan 2020, 16:05

                                        I just come from a walk exercise and the vo2max has changed…
                                        Maybe that is just for for walk and run basic exercise. It make sense because the 2 exercises that gave me a vo2max estimated were with ascent, so the vo2max is so poor. To have good data the ground must be flat, no ?

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                                          sartoric Moderator @ink357
                                          last edited by sartoric 19 Jan 2020, 16:12

                                          @ink357 said in S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?:

                                          Maybe that is just for for walk and run basic exercise.

                                          Yes it is.

                                          To have good data the ground must be flat, no ?

                                          Correct. At least to have good/reliable estimation.

                                          https://www.firstbeat.com/en/consumer-feature/vo2max-fitness-level/

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