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S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?

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    lost_today Bronze Member @ink357
    last edited by 12 Jan 2020, 16:10

    @ink357 that could be the problem
    I would do a hard reset. That’s what I did this morning then it basic run and got my fitness level

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      ink357
      last edited by 12 Jan 2020, 16:17

      The watch is not a new, i wanted to try the new functions. Now i’ll make a hard reset with all new settings

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        sartoric Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by sartoric 1 Dec 2020, 17:13 12 Jan 2020, 17:13

        @ink357

        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?:

        To get VO2max you need good HR readings and a bit of effort (go to zone 2+ ) from my experience

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          ink357
          last edited by 12 Jan 2020, 17:39

          I think HR was good because there is no loses.

          I’ve made a hard reset… and lost my personalized exercises 😰

          How to add basic exercises in the watch ? Just make one and it will add ? Or i need to do that in SA ?

          Let’s try tomorrow !

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            freeheeler @ink357
            last edited by 12 Jan 2020, 17:59

            @ink357
            it’s a great disadvantage that sport mode customization is not stored and backed up in SA!

            living sideways

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              ink357 @lost_today
              last edited by 19 Jan 2020, 13:05

              @lost_today said in S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?:

              @ink357 hi
              I asked suunto help centre about this.
              You need to do walk/run for calibration but after this your levels should change doing any exercise type.
              I have just done calibration today. So I have not tested this yet. But will let you know results mi week.

              Are you sure ? I finally got a vo2max estimated last thursday. But today after my ride in bike mode no changes. It was a 1 hour ride and i went in the 5 zone of HR.

              Someone can confirm that the vo2max estimated will change after every exercices in all sports mode ?

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                cosme.costa @ink357
                last edited by 19 Jan 2020, 15:16

                @ink357 said in S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?:

                @lost_today said in S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?:

                @ink357 hi
                I asked suunto help centre about this.
                You need to do walk/run for calibration but after this your levels should change doing any exercise type.
                I have just done calibration today. So I have not tested this yet. But will let you know results mi week.

                Are you sure ? I finally got a vo2max estimated last thursday. But today after my ride in bike mode no changes. It was a 1 hour ride and i went in the 5 zone of HR.

                Someone can confirm that the vo2max estimated will change after every exercices in all sports mode ?

                I think only works with running activities.

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                  ink357
                  last edited by 19 Jan 2020, 16:05

                  I just come from a walk exercise and the vo2max has changed…
                  Maybe that is just for for walk and run basic exercise. It make sense because the 2 exercises that gave me a vo2max estimated were with ascent, so the vo2max is so poor. To have good data the ground must be flat, no ?

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                    sartoric Moderator @ink357
                    last edited by sartoric 19 Jan 2020, 16:12

                    @ink357 said in S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?:

                    Maybe that is just for for walk and run basic exercise.

                    Yes it is.

                    To have good data the ground must be flat, no ?

                    Correct. At least to have good/reliable estimation.

                    https://www.firstbeat.com/en/consumer-feature/vo2max-fitness-level/

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                      cosme.costa @ink357
                      last edited by 19 Jan 2020, 18:02

                      @ink357 said in S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?:

                      I just come from a walk exercise and the vo2max has changed…
                      Maybe that is just for for walk and run basic exercise. It make sense because the 2 exercises that gave me a vo2max estimated were with ascent, so the vo2max is so poor. To have good data the ground must be flat, no ?

                      With Trail Running sport mode you will have also VO2 estimation, in my case it is pretty consistent with the flat runs, but maybe my trail runs are flattish for the algorithm (not for me), I do between 300-450m for 13-14 km and the VO2 only changes some tenths.

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                        ink357 @cosme.costa
                        last edited by 19 Jan 2020, 18:12

                        @cosmecosta i’ll try with this type of exercise next time. Maybe with bike exercise it need a power sensor to give data.
                        What about the custom exercises ?

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                          cosme.costa @ink357
                          last edited by 19 Jan 2020, 18:19

                          @ink357 said in S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?:

                          @cosmecosta i’ll try with this type of exercise next time. Maybe with bike exercise it need a power sensor to give data.
                          What about the custom exercises ?

                          From what I have read bike exercise won’t give you VO2, am I right @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos?

                          Regarding custom sport modes if they are based on running/walking sport modes you won’t have problems. Actually my running and trail running sports modes are custom ones.

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                            ink357
                            last edited by ink357 26 Jan 2020, 17:09

                            Somebody can tell me why my vo2max is so poor ?
                            https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/04/7/1580058503-0468bab2-ca4f-432b-be8f-718e7b3b0b9d.jpeg

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                              surfboomerang @ink357
                              last edited by 26 Jan 2020, 17:13

                              @ink357 I think it is the combination of a pace of 7:30 min/km in combination with an average heart rate of 170.

                              What is your max HR?

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                                ink357
                                last edited by 26 Jan 2020, 17:17

                                My HR max is actually 189

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                                  Anatoli Angelov Bronze Member
                                  last edited by 26 Jan 2020, 17:23

                                  In order to have correct measurement of VO2Max you should run on flat terrain.
                                  Trail running with lots of ascent for sure will result in worse VO2Max.

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                                    Bulkan Moderator @ink357
                                    last edited by 26 Jan 2020, 23:32

                                    @ink357 is your weight correct in the watch? Check it out.

                                    VO2max is related with weight.

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                                      Václav Král
                                      last edited by 27 Jan 2020, 11:33

                                      https://www.firstbeat.com/en/consumer-feature/vo2max-fitness-level/

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                                        ink357 @Bulkan
                                        last edited by 27 Jan 2020, 12:26

                                        @Bulkan said in S9 Baro titanium not measuring VO2Max or fitness levels with 2.10.18 - is this a known problem?:

                                        @ink357 is your weight correct in the watch? Check it out.

                                        VO2max is related with weight.

                                        That is Ok. I’m 73kgs to 1,8m

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