Suunto 7

@Luís-Pinto Since this watch is not aimed at Suunto’s base core but more at the S3F user,

Agreed. And yet S3F has all FirstBeat metrics more hardcore watches have, support for external sensors beyond heart rate, and even unofficial support for running power.

isazi

@jean-william-cousin I would gladly eat pasta every day

@jean-william-cousin said in Suunto 7:

@Alejandro I was an early adopter of the SSU too, so as a great philosopher once said, oops I did it again.

I have been honestly investigating Google Fit and WearOS side of the equation ever since S7 surprise announcement. While the jury is still out, the early evidence presented to the court is really-really promising. I think S7 might be the first smartwatch that ticks all the right boxes for me in terms of design, hardware specs, and features, and it might be the second smartwatch ever with real sports chops, period. The first one being Polar M600, peace be upon it. Amen!

My only gripe is that without external sensors and intervals, I would still need another real watch to drive majority of my training. Still, a capable daily driver that can capture easy runs outside, recovery spin bikes/rowing, mobility drills/stretching, minor hikes and walks is pretty big in my book.

@isazi Can’t eat pasta for three months, let alone everyday… So I’ll probably drop breakfast and swap dinner for protein shake

(I’m sure soon we are going to see a headline on Engadget and Gizmodo “Broke Suunto fans starve to get S7”…)

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@NickK if you use Google fit you will be pleased a lot. SA syncs to Google Fit (the watch SA) and other apps like Sleep for Android can push also sleep to FIT. Now the watch can be used with the Sleep for Android app to aggregate data as Sleep for Android bases also on Mic etc. Google fit also does 24/7 HR monitoring and gives an important metric, rest HR.

For the Apple health kit etc people I have no clue…

Also Steps are not synced to the Suunto app. I dont know if Suunto app will pull them eventually from Google Fit but it has been decided that Google Fit will / should provide the step count , meaning, that they do have a “context” engine for removing invalid steps.

I hope this helps.

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Thank you! I haven’t used Google Fit in a long-long while. Was pleasantly surprised by the redesigned version. I’d say it’s a combined and streamlined version of iOS Health and Activity apps. It doesn’t try to be everything for everyone, i.e. it’s not health vault with all stats under the sun. But it does have the basics people typically want to track and it does a lot of smart things presentation wise.

I think on Android where Fit is native, S7 could be a hit.

iPhone is a different story. On one hand, WearOS there is a second class citizen due to iOS limitations and Google’s lack of focus. On the other, S7 would probably have to write to Health too, because that’s where iPhone people would expect to find the data. There’s Google Fit version for iOS, but I doubt many people know it exists.

Bulkan

@jorgefd78 don’t live in the past, live in the present.

Bulkan

@Brad_Olwin f

I agree with you. I understand people always want what they desire but this watch is pointing to a new niche for Suunto.

For me the lack of tracking in Suunto app and the lack of support of Stryd push me away from buying it.

But Suunto is delivering and amazing screen, hardware and it fits for non ultra athletes.

I could be rich if I’ve received 1 dollar each time since the launch of the first (disaster) Apple Watch when people said “If Suunto would launched a smart watch with their hardware…” Well here it is the first version. I love it.

Bulkan

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 7:

@NickK if you use Google fit you will be pleased a lot. SA syncs to Google Fit (the watch SA) and o, (…)

For the Apple health kit etc people I have no clue…

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos where and how do I have to go, write, send a video, climb, downhill or whatever to get to suunto use Applehealthkit in order to track the sleep time?

I will do it.

azeanic

@dulko79 A friend of mine just purchased the Amazfit Stratos 3. He said it was pretty good. User interface was alot better than he expected.

@azeanic It is refreshing to see a properly rendered pace graph and a cadence graph that shows steps per minute rather than RPM. It is also refreshing to see HR graph which isn’t in zone 5 most of the time like most of HR graphs recorded with optical sensor on S9B.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@silentvoyager we dont do steps per minute in Suunto. Cadence is from one foot measured anyways and all services and normal unit is RPM not steps. All files and protocols use RPM (Revolutions per minute)

I know you want else but thanks

Shrek3k

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 7:

@silentvoyager we dont do steps per minute in Suunto. Cadence is from one foot measured anyways and all services and normal unit is RPM not steps. All files and protocols use RPM (Revolutions per minute)

I know you want else but thanks

Absolutely no issue for me, as I am really able to double the number in order to compare it with other statistics and this number is one that does not concern me that much … nevertheless even Stryd uses steps per minute, obviously using one sensor / pod on one foot …
But as the values of spm from Stryd differ from the (even when doubled) rpm I prefer to rely on Stryd.

danisius

I wonder if it is possible Suunto 7 to be charged without to be taken off the hand.

freeheeler

@danisius
like in crank 2, high voltage

@danisius said in Suunto 7:

I wonder if it is possible Suunto 7 to be charged without to be taken off the hand.

Looking at the rendering of the watch back and its charging/data port, it might be possible based on charging cable design. That being said, you can forget OHR and with no external sensors, charging it on the go means game over for capturing heart rate.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@danisius https://photos.app.goo.gl/qcY39NLbLvkHUN728

Storz

Would love to know if you can view barometer and altitude widgets like you can on the 9 Baro or Fenix series.

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos No OHR I’d imagine with a cradle like this?

See! That’s why we need heart rate sensors! Before you know, @Brad_Olwin will be running ultras in S7, with 5000 mAh strapped to his forearm. Good ol’ days are back! Now with full color maps and music in tow. I love progress!

@Storz said in Suunto 7:

Would love to know if you can view barometer and altitude widgets like you can on the 9 Baro or Fenix series.

The good news is that it’s WearOS. You can just listen to environmental sensor events and pluck your data. Drop it on one of those fancy tiles (aka widgets in Garmin’s parlance) and there you go!

I cried my little greedy tears, pre-ordered S7 yesterday. Might as well do it myself if Suunto doesn’t rise to the occasion.