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@Fenr1r Both I’m afraid. Given they track your location even when location services are explicitly disabled, I’d say fighting El Goog (and Apple by the same token) is kind of pointless. This battle has been lost. Besides, here in the US carriers are busy keeping track of your location by triangulating your phone’s signal and selling this data to anybody who asks. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of those is Google. Perhaps they even have a nice and friendly data sharing agreement of you scratch my back, I scratch yours variety.
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 7:
@Mff73 I have tried komoot and other apps like ghostracer that can connect to pods HR etc and all work fine.
Also today I found the heatmaps vs komoot (I use komoot) much better as I could see where people go in the wild.
Honestly I use both watches when I am in unknown territory from now on. S9 for the data etc and s7 for all the mapping + data + testing
Would be interesting to see how long the watch lasts battery wise in those apps. AFAIK the Suunto WearOS app shuts down almost all of the smart watch functionality and only leaves the bare minimum running to collect data and save battery, I wonder how other WearOS apps do it or are they battery hogs.
And on this topic, does anybody know if the S7 displays notifications as the Spartan and S-line of watches does when it is running in “sport mode”?Two or four years and these watches will actually be good for serious all day tracking and training. Right now they look more like expensive jewellery that needs an extra battery pack to get you through the day with training.
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@NickK They may know where I am but I’ll die before I let them use my health data against me. And since they’re undoubtedly reading this, they know I’m in the pub and serious.
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 7:
I dont use Google FIT and have deleted my data from there FYI
Why? I personally find latest Fit to be quite nice. Nowhere as busy and cluttered as Health on iOS. Until Suunto has a legit sleep tracking and its activity tracking matches what’s available in Fit, I think for Android phones Fit is a very good repository of your activity tracking data. Well, Google snooping aside.
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@Fenr1r If you are living in the US I’d be more worried about health insurance companies. Not only they have vastly more info on you and of much higher quality, but they have been mining and selling it like there’s no tomorrow for a while now.
I’d say bring it on! I take vitamin D daily and change my contacts biweekly. Let Google data wizs chew on that.
Sometimes not having a signal is much stronger signal than random noise we otherwise invariably generate.
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@NickK said in Suunto 7:
You can sort of disable Fit on the watch (can’t be uninstalled
On a Wear OS watch you can uninstall all apps you want. Just use ADB and command line.
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@pilleus You are right of course, I missed the page about dropping into terminal and kicking off ADB from Suunto manual
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@fejker I think if an app how not implemented “low power processor” or the correct term: “decompose” it won’t help to go up to more than ~5h.
The 3100 chip need a decompose (see decomposing watchfaces) that can do that.
AFAIK this is low level programming when it comes to custom implementations eg sports, mapping etc.
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@NickK not something specific but I stopped tracking HR etc. Its no use to me even from the best trackers for this fitness metric. I feel better without it
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Is it possible to switch off OHR during an activity to save battery? Or for usage on the handle bar during cycling? If yes, is there an empty field shown on the activity screen or is there an option to show some other information?
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@pilleus AFAIK it is not possible to turn off OHR and the sport modes are not customizable so you will get a blank field if no OHR.
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The major problems for S7 will be price and battery. The questions that many will do at choose moment: pros - screen, music, maps, payments, 4 gnss, hr quality. Cons - battery, small sport features support, Google OS, no SI not even simple, no Suunto support for external sensors, SA in young age. Suunto choose not to do what Polar made with Ignite, or Garmin with Venu. Both don’t depend Google OS to work. They have their property OS. Suunto made a APP for Wear Os. It’s quite different.
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@Luís-Pinto I think this is far away from reality. Suunto didn’t not only make an app for wear os fyi.
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos does the co-processor which is used during activity support BLE?
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@Maryn it can do whatever you programm it to afaik
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ok thx.
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@Prenj DC rainmaker is someone I really trust. His reviews are great and not too biased. He’s been talking about the software issues with Suunto for some time now. He’s not trying to shit on Suunto, he’s saying what we all know: Even if Sunnto update the firmware, it’s still Wear OS. This is a one day watch at best. That’s fine though, this watch isn’t for me, it’s for the smart watch crowd, so a one day battery life is not a deal breaker for that crowd.
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Okay, so it would be possible.
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 7:
@jthomi you can I think but many things will be dumbed down. The suunto things work without a google account afail. You could create though a “fake” one
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 7:
@jthomi google fit is not working until you login with your google account (or an email coupled with a google account)
I dont use Google FIT and have deleted my data from there FYI
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Still a difference in giving them all data willingly or not, at least for me. But thats another topic…
@NickK said in Suunto 7:
@Fenr1r Both I’m afraid. Given they track your location even when location services are explicitly disabled, I’d say fighting El Goog (and Apple by the same token) is kind of pointless. This battle has been lost. Besides, here in the US carriers are busy keeping track of your location by triangulating your phone’s signal and selling this data to anybody who asks. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of those is Google. Perhaps they even have a nice and friendly data sharing agreement of you scratch my back, I scratch yours variety.
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@ChubbyCrusher said in Suunto 7:
@Prenj DC rainmaker is someone I really trust. His reviews are great and not too biased. He’s been talking about the software issues with Suunto for some time now. He’s not trying to shit on Suunto, he’s saying what we all know: Even if Sunnto update the firmware, it’s still Wear OS. This is a one day watch at best. That’s fine though, this watch isn’t for me, it’s for the smart watch crowd, so a one day battery life is not a deal breaker for that crowd.
I really like Ray’s style, how intense his reviews are, how detailed everything is shown and how the articles is written, not to forget how responsive he is. Nevertheless in the last years my impression about him being biased has changed, as there is a quite fair assessment e.g. about Garmin products (and its software) including issues, but - and I am no longer the Suunto fanboy I have been - other producers (including Suunto) are criticized more intensively. BTW: this is not about declaring that the S7 (or any other watch) is the .best watch ever , which it is most certainly not. Just my two cents and personal opinion - and yes, I am reading his articles every week, and am going to do it for the foreseeable future.
