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There are a lot of really good comments that hit the mark in my opinion. I have to say -
1 - surprise accomplished
2 - accomplished that I now fear a little bit, that the focus drifts away from ‘real sport watches’ although I read @Brad_Olwin commentary about the Ultra domination I still see the limited capacities of Suunto … and as mentioned before - to become another Fossil-watch-adaptor might not be enough
3 - the features of the watch are interesting, nevertheless, but, it it is not for me -
I have to say that this model is a huge opening for Suunto towards mass markets. Some people seem disappointed due to limitations on very niche features e.g. triathlon. This watch is not meant for hardcore athletes but fancy daily driver for most. If this turns out successful and Suunto development team gains good learnings on integration, I would not be surprised if we see Suunto 11 or so with more athlete’s approach later on.
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Interesting timing, considering it’s based on Sanpdragon Wear 3100. Not that there were much other options and I can only guess how long they have been working on this. And they probably could not afford waiting any more. But still - the next gen Snapdragon Wear chipset is expected somewhere during this year. And progressing from 28nm process A7 cores to 12nm A53 cores (2013 vs 2018 tech) is likely to bring along Wear OS watches with longer battery life, smother user experience and longer Wear OS support cycle by the end of the year.
With competitive pricing this would make sense - testing a new(ish) solution on customers while preparing for more polished next release. But going for premium knowing that there’s a good chance it will sell for about a half after 12 or so months?
https://9to5google.com/2019/10/28/qualcomm-snapdragon-wear-3300-wear-os/
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I really love the idea, but I’m absolutely socked about this Suunto disruptive step. I have been using my Sony SW3 smartwatch for years, but finally sold it. Just 2h of GPS + Music.
Let’s see how Suunto integrates in Google platform.
BR
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a while ago I mentioned that my impression is that Suunto is streamlining their products. But this release proofs my impression was wrong.
It’s logic that Suunto can not survive on a handful of ultra runners and mountaineers that need a new watch every 7 years…
the other question is if following apple and fitbit is the way to go? …why not as long as Suunto keeps the mountain spirit alive and surprises us with tough and useful watches in the future, too! -
At least now there should be structured workouts
, the ones that use them will be happy.Jokes aside, the watch is nice and pricy, and made in China, not Finland (zoom Suunto’s pictures).
I think is a good move from Suunto, not for me but to have more presence in the market.
Companies should make money to continue in business and sports watch market probably is not enough for Suunto with the actual competition.
I hope Suunto doesn’t forget the sports watches, and continue improving the S line and Spartans too.
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Interesting timing, considering it’s based on Sanpdragon Wear 3100. Not that there were much other options and I can only guess how long they have been working on this. And they probably could not afford waiting any more. But still - the next gen Snapdragon Wear chipset is expected somewhere during this year. And progressing from 28nm process A7 cores to 12nm A53 cores (2013 vs 2018 tech) is likely to bring along Wear OS watches with longer battery life, smother user experience and longer Wear OS support cycle by the end of the year.
With competitive pricing this would make sense - testing a new(ish) solution on customers while preparing for more polished next release. But going for premium knowing that there’s a good chance it will sell for about a half after 12 or so months?
https://9to5google.com/2019/10/28/qualcomm-snapdragon-wear-3300-wear-os/
Hear hear. One has to always remember (in tech) that you cant use but the latest available hardware. I’ve been hoping for something like S7 for long time, as that suits my needs nicely. At the same time the “legacy” chipset from qualcomm has not been ideal with less operating time than S9 for example. This very same phenomenon happened with smartphones years back and we got adjusted. I will likely continue with S9B and S7. One day they get merged
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fyi the user guide is available, with all the details : https://www.suunto.com/en-ie/Support/Product-support/suunto_7/suunto_7/
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@kurko You are correct. When a processor comes out it takes a long time till the manu, fixes the issues. And yes there are maaaaaaaaaaaanyyyyyyyyyy from Qualcomm
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Hmm. Makes Suunto a more appealing mouthful for Google if Amer/Anta want to sell. A partially-integrated, robust brand addition to Alphabet holdings, along with all that juicy personal data. Soontle? Guugtu?
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I like it. If Suunto would monitoring my sleep and sync it to health in iOS I will buy at this moment. Is very nice and the screen looks gorgeous!
Innovation, good maps and quality.
Tu comunidad Suunto en Telegram: https://t.me/suuntocommunity (spanish)
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@TELE-HO I’m waiting for it
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It’s interesting approach but I’m hoping Suunto will not go where Fitbit went (their attempts of building a smartwatch with Ionic to be the major issue, almost killed the company). I like smartwatch features but I want to stay in control of what runs on the device and be able to shape the power saving the way I can get good battery life. With WearOS it may not be possible (yet) but this is something I’d like to see in the future. Smartwatch that can turn into low-color, GPS, long-battery life sports watch just by changing the profile in the settings or something like that. However, S7 is not my cup of tea at all. I went through the user guide and see things missing like pairing with external sensors (and knowing history of horrible WHR in Suunto watches this feature is a must). Battery life isn’t great either (my wife owns Galaxy Active and the need of charging the watch almost every day made her abandon it). However, I’m curious what the future will bring. I’m currently thinking to change either to new Garmin Fenix or Polar Vantage but waiting for a good deal and I need to know how well those watches can handle impacts (last Saturday my Spartan went through a lot during bouldering and this is what I like about it - it actually earned the name
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@jsr184
if a watches battery lasts one day and it has a sleeptracking feature… when would you charge the watch?
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@TELE-HO You got it. In modern etiquette terms, the watch charges on the left of the place setting, just outside the prawn fork. The phone remains in its traditional position on the far right, next to the grape spoon.
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@Fenr1r
that’s a good hint and I will consider this when we rearrange our dining room next time…
maybe it would even make sense to install powerbanks into the table?
…or future proof: a slightely inclined wireless charge pad for the phone where the desserts spoon is placed, so we can still watch TV on the phone while charging and dining…
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@TELE-HO I like your thinking. That way you won’t risk missing the on-watch notification of a message sent to your phone by your dining companion(s).
It’s important for families to communicate at meal times.
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@Fenr1r
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This is definitely meant to hit a different customer base than the S9/Spartan/Ambit/Traverse crowds, which from a business standpoint is probably a very good thing, because Suunto has never really had anything catering to the “smartwatch” wearing type before.
There’s no reason the company can’t make different watches catering to different crowds, and there’s no reason the S7 or something like it in the future can’t function like a “gateway drug” for people who gradually get more into endurance sports and eventually want to switch to something more S9/Ambit-like. Consider this thing like the S3 for people who wouldn’t consider an S3 because it isn’t a full-blown internet connected smartwatch that plays music, runs apps, does mobile payments, etc.
I do wonder a bit about the decision to go with WearOS for this thing, though, especially in light of Google’s recent purchase of Fitbit. What happens to this or future, similar watches if/when Google decides to come out with something different of its own and neglect or kill off the platform? That company has quite the extensive history of doing stuff like that.
That said, between the announcement of the S7 and the recent release of Fossil’s Hybrid HR watches, it’s probably the best bits of news WearOS has had in a while.
