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    ianshowalter @Brad_Olwin
    last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 12:51

    This is definitely meant to hit a different customer base than the S9/Spartan/Ambit/Traverse crowds, which from a business standpoint is probably a very good thing, because Suunto has never really had anything catering to the “smartwatch” wearing type before.

    There’s no reason the company can’t make different watches catering to different crowds, and there’s no reason the S7 or something like it in the future can’t function like a “gateway drug” for people who gradually get more into endurance sports and eventually want to switch to something more S9/Ambit-like. Consider this thing like the S3 for people who wouldn’t consider an S3 because it isn’t a full-blown internet connected smartwatch that plays music, runs apps, does mobile payments, etc.

    I do wonder a bit about the decision to go with WearOS for this thing, though, especially in light of Google’s recent purchase of Fitbit. What happens to this or future, similar watches if/when Google decides to come out with something different of its own and neglect or kill off the platform? That company has quite the extensive history of doing stuff like that.

    That said, between the announcement of the S7 and the recent release of Fossil’s Hybrid HR watches, it’s probably the best bits of news WearOS has had in a while.

    Watch: SSU, FW 2.8.32
    App: 4.22.3 beta
    Phone: Motorola Moto G6
    Android 9
    HRM: Polar OH1

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      jw cou Silver Members
      last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 13:16

      Does anyone know if it’s possible to use a route planned in SA with the S7?
      I have some doubts reading the user guide…

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @jw cou
        last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 13:22

        @jean-william-cousin not at the moment. At least from my tests. I asked about it and got no answer

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          jw cou Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 13:24

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos thanks, I got confused by DC rainmaker initial review that (wrongly) says “the Suunto 7 supports breadcrumb trail routes sent to it from the Suunto smartphone app. So if you’ve got a route there, you’ll be able to send it to the Suunto 7 watch to guide you”

          https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2020/01/suunto-7-with-wear-os-maps-music-payments-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know.html

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @jw cou
            last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 1 Jun 2020, 13:27 6 Jan 2020, 13:27

            @jean-william-cousin We are about 1 months away from launch so idk what will be there. Honestly

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              jw cou Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
              last edited by jw cou 1 Jun 2020, 13:30 6 Jan 2020, 13:30

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos well I pre-ordered it, that’s how much faith I have in Suunto 🙂

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                Brad_Olwin Moderator @jw cou
                last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 13:47

                @jean-william-cousin said in Suunto 7:

                @Brad_Olwin do you know if it’s possible to directly use 3rd party apps (like Runkeeper / strava /…) to track runs with the gps / altitude of the watch? In other words, does the Suunto 7 allows to use only Suunto’s hardware and to not rely at all on Suunto’s software?

                Yes, third party apps will run on the watch.

                Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                  Frederick Rochette Bronze Member
                  last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 13:57

                  It’s an important turn taken by SUUNTO, but the battery life is very far from the S9 and there are no firstbeat features and no SuuntoPlus (with more than Strava RE ;-))… Now (from my side) we have to wait for the S10/11 to have, I hope, a complete new generation watch for running, outdoor activities and everyday life without forget the reliability…

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                    jthomi
                    last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 13:58

                    Do I read that right, no heart rate from a chest belt?

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                      A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 13:58

                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos or @Brad_Olwin Can it work side by side with S9 in Suunto app, or the little forget-add device dance is still required? What about external sensors like Stryd or bike speed/cadence? Finally, a really enormously stupid question – ANT+?

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                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @jthomi
                        last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 13:59

                        @jthomi Yes but the OHR is very, very good. I do not need a belt with this watch. It has been working quite well in cold weather.

                        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
                          last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 14:00

                          @NickK The “dance” is required so far but we are a month away from release so I don’t know what is planned for SA by release date.

                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                            freeheeler @Frederick Rochette
                            last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 14:01

                            @Frederick-Rochette said in Suunto 7:

                            the battery life is very far from the S9

                            Suunto says if you use it in watch mode you get up to 40 days battery… you can forget about that with S9B and even with A3PS

                            living sideways

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                              jthomi @Brad_Olwin
                              last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 14:02

                              @Brad_Olwin I do believe its quite accurate, that’s not the point for me. I mainly use the watch while mountain biking, and often have the watch strapped to the handlebar, especially in the colder months. And I don’t like wearing a watch so tightly to my wrist.

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                                Egika Platinum Member @freeheeler
                                last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 14:03

                                @TELE-HO just watch mode is nothing more than a watch.
                                no smart, no sports tracking no nothing.
                                A reset is required to get it out of this mode again…

                                t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
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                                  Frederick Rochette Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                  last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 14:04

                                  @Brad_Olwin It’s not difficult to be better than S9… But what is différent from S3/S5/S9? the brand? the model?

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                                    freeheeler @Egika
                                    last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 14:05

                                    @Egika
                                    the real referece would be the capacity…
                                    I can imagine that it is not bigger than in S9B’s battery as they need space for memory.

                                    living sideways

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                                      halajos Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                      last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 14:15

                                      If this is the direction Suunto is heading, I’m not happy with that. The market the S7 is targeted at is much bigger, then the market for the S9/SSU/Ambit. If Suunto makes money with the S7 and alike and spends to stay in the outdoor/athlete game with the S9 and alike, I’m fine. Otherwise…

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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator
                                        last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 14:15

                                        You all know I am an ultra running person, it is my hobby. The S9 is the best watch I have used for ultras, and I purchased one when it was announced. I started running ultras prior to the release of the Ambits and ran my first ultras using a T6c, which did a fairly good job. I have seen quite a few changes occurring, the Ambits, followed by the Spartan and S series. I have to say I am impressed with the S7. I could use this as my daily training watch and pull out the S9 for weekends if I am going on something long. The smartwatch features of the S7 are nice to have, the maps are an incredible help when I travel. I have run a route simply following the heat map on the S7 and not had to hassle with drawing and downloading a route on the S9. For those of you that won’t be running longer than 6h😉 this is a great watch in my opinion.

                                        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Frederick Rochette
                                          last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 14:18

                                          @Frederick-Rochette said in Suunto 7:

                                          @Brad_Olwin It’s not difficult to be better than S9… But what is différent from S3/S5/S9? the brand? the model?

                                          I would argue with that, the FusedTrack Suunto has developed is quite amazing, only available on the S9 and no other company has anything to match it. I know you will say that other watches have as long or longer battery life in 1s GPS fix. But, no other company has the ease of routing and the ability to have a map screen loaded while running an ultra that minimally impacts battery life. So I totally disagree, from what I have seen and tried, the S9 is still one to beat for ultras.

                                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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