Suunto 7

JorgeFD

@Brad_Olwin correct. If you are an apple boy (I switch to Android 1 month ago but not due tu s7) it doesn’t worth it to switch all the ecosystem only for a watch

isazi

@pilleus said in Suunto 7:

A review should be made after testing with the correct systems. Android phone and WearOS watch.

Everything else is a joke.

Yes and no. I agree this is the feeling users here are expressing, but if the S7 is also marketed to be iOS compatible it is one of the important scenarios to test too.

pilleus

Google Easter egg

Connect a head phone, ear buds or bluetooth speaker with your S7 and have fun with the drum sequencer!

https://youtu.be/EB7pM3P98zs

@jorgefd78 said in Suunto 7:

I feel system and apps faster and even the sensation that the watch battery last more

It’s not a sensation. It’s the truth

@isazi It’s OK to have a separate section covering how different your experience would be on iOS. Especially when you took time to distinguish which of the issues are due to a different platform, which stem from the bugs in Wear OS app, and which are native to Suunto 7. I’m yet to see a review that takes this nuanced look.

Otherwise, it’s like reviewing a latest game optimized for PC on a Mac. Just because it kind of, sort of happens to run there.

Brad_Olwin

@isazi said in Suunto 7:

@pilleus said in Suunto 7:

A review should be made after testing with the correct systems. Android phone and WearOS watch.

Everything else is a joke.

Yes and no. I agree this is the feeling users here are expressing, but if the S7 is also marketed to be iOS compatible it is one of the important scenarios to test too.

I can state that Suunto thought it quite important to test with iOS users. Not able to reveal details but they did not want to market as an Android watch.

pilleus

@Brad_Olwin said in Suunto 7:

they did not want to market as an Android watch

Okay. I try to get this. They do not want to market an Android (WearOS) powered watch as an Android watch. Crazy!

Fenr1r

@pilleus Not so much crazy as in line with two of Suunto’s Prime Directives*:

Be inclusive: everyone’s money is good. Don’t put off any potential customers by even hinting at product limitations (e.g., preferential device pairing).
… something to do with employee satisfaction or anarcho-syndicalism. Ambiguous.
… aesthetics/ergonomics/feng shui? Google gave up.
[SECRET] Keep @Brad_Olwin happy-ish. (He’s an Apple Man.)

*Loosely translated/entirely invented.

@Brad_Olwin said in Suunto 7:

I can state that Suunto thought it quite important to test with iOS users. Not able to reveal details but they did not want to market as an Android watch.

I’m all for that, as I said. I’d be still using my iPhone if Wear OS app had been a tiny bit better. In fact I might come back simply because other apps that are important to me (like WHOOP) is a total garbage on Android. Still, the watch does work better on Android

Bulkan

@NickK said in Suunto 7:

Still, the watch does work better on Android

No proof of that. Give me data !!!

@Bulkan I already have. Just look at the DCR review and consider that all issues he mentions, from increased battery drain to workout sync to maps update, aren’t Suunto 7 issues. People who have Android don’t have them. But don’t take DCR word for it! Search these forums. Every time somebody brings up an issue with weather being stuck or anything, it’s inevitably a happy iPhone user

Bulkan

I didn’t expect that answer. You have an iPhone and Android phone. You could make the test! Give me data!

Talking seriously, Today aftef charged it at night yesterday I have 40% battery left. I hope to workout tomorrow if my ankle let my finally and compare with my S9b. But I miss a good review using Android vs using iOS. I don’t think the differences are going to be huge.

Brad_Olwin

@pilleus said in Suunto 7:

@Brad_Olwin said in Suunto 7:

they did not want to market as an Android watch

Okay. I try to get this. They do not want to market an Android (WearOS) powered watch as an Android watch. Crazy!

Sorry I meant solely as an Android phone watch, I should write more carefully. There were several testers and employees with iPhones.

@Bulkan said in Suunto 7:

But I miss a good review using Android vs using iOS. I don’t think the differences are going to be huge.

TLDR: The Suunto 7 on Android is better, and more than just marginally so. That being said, Wear OS smartwatch on an iPhone is still superior to pretty much any other alternative, with exception of Apple Watch.

Search my posts around mid to late January, about the state of Wear OS. I used an older watch from 2017, but the review still applies. The only differences you have iPhone vs Android:

You don’t get full notifications, email bodies, or custom notification actions like delete, complete, etc. (at least that was the case in the past), so you are limited in terms of what you can do with notifications without pulling your phone
You can’t reply to text (SMS) messages on your watch. You can use other messenger apps though
You can’t answer your phone on your watch or listen to the voicemail… This is a bit of a moot point as S7 lacks appropriate speaker, though some of it is still possible when headphones are connected
Every now and then you will experience connectivity issues since the watch connectivity is provided by Wear OS app on the iPhone, not built into the OS. This is especially true if you leave your phone behind on your desk and walk away for a while. Bluetooth disconnects (watch to phone), data disconnects (when data is sent over Bluetooth).
Wear OS has less features and configuration options on iPhone, due to iOS limitations around calendar access, notifications, etc
Some older pre Wear OS 2.0 apps that have companion watch apps and require to be installed for them to work, well… You can’t install those
Apps that require to open a companion app/web view on a phone is a pain in the ass (try setting up Pandora premium subscription) as this “open on the phone” doesn’t work well with a screen lock
There’s no support for smart lock, i.e. if the watch is on my hand and it’s connected to the phone, unlock the phone automatically
Battery life is anecdotally somewhat worse off on iPhone vs Android, though I don’t think the difference is material

JorgeFD

@NickK totally agree with you

Bulkan

I don’t like iOS now.

Brad_Olwin

@Bulkan said in Suunto 7:

I don’t like iOS now.

There is a solution for that…

JorgeFD

@Brad_Olwin sell the S7 (to me) and buy a new apple watch

Bulkan

@Brad_Olwin I know. Suunto buys Apple and all set.

Bulkan

@jorgefd78 never ever. This S7 is the best smartwatch I ever had and the most beautiful. I know you want my white watch… but sorry.