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    Fenr1r @Brad_Olwin
    last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 16:03

    @Brad_Olwin Very pretty indeed - altho’ I’d probably still need glasses to read my wrist. And good to learn Suunto’s better at expectations management now (at least as far as a new product launch goes). Thank you.

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      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
      last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 16:04

      @NickK I have had no connectivity or syncing issues. I have run the watch out of battery and the activity up to the time the watch died is saved and synced.

      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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        Brad_Olwin Moderator @Fenr1r
        last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 16:05

        @Fenr1r I wear glasses and do not need them with this. The screen is 484x484, easy to read.

        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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          Fenr1r @Brad_Olwin
          last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 16:06

          @Brad_Olwin Even the maps?

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            jthomi
            last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 16:13

            I was thinking of replacing my Spartan Sport with a new Suunto model, most likely S9, but I was also thinking there was something coming soon. This wasn’t exactly what I was thinking but a lot of the things I was hoping for.

            Some specs are simply not what I want right now, and so, still more waiting time for me. What about this S10 you are all talking about? 😂 😉
            This S7 goes in the right direction for me, just add HR belt support, get rid of all things google, enhance battery life to S9 levels and I am good to go.

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              Brad_Olwin Moderator @Fenr1r
              last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 16:43

              @Fenr1r yes, the maps are able to be zoomed quite a bit, here are zoom levels near me of a trail area.
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              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                Fenr1r @Brad_Olwin
                last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 16:48

                @Brad_Olwin Useful pix, thanks. Crucially, for assessment of the Suunto 7: does the mountain look like a rabbit? Is it particularly full of the things? Was it named after a particularly leporine local individual?

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                  zvonejan Bronze Member
                  last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 17:23

                  I had 2 android wear watches for 4 years: lg watch and mobvoi tic watch. I even had few days monster from casio f21 android designed for adventure with barometer (but not serions sport at all)

                  protrek21.jpg

                  Few facts:

                  1. These watches do not use transflect screen which soak light from ambient, they use classic lcd which do not have backlight… like phones. This screens consume a lot of power and they are invisible in sun, but very good visible in dark (oposite from transreflect)

                  2. these screens are very sensitive for touch and water. It can not be forever turned on, after 5 sec they go to slip and you can wake up it with wrist turns. They are not appropriate for seriuos athletes, because screen is almost invisible under sun.

                  3. Glass material can not be saphirre or mineral.

                  4. Android watches are very difficult to pair with BT senzors. Very few apps support Heart rate senzor or bike senzor or stryd.

                  5 They are good for basic sports, forget custimizable screens like now, maybe few fields and very limited functionality.

                  1. Suunto 7 is not ONLY future for Suunto ( I guess and hope). Number 7 is lower than 9 so this is not flagship. Polar has midlerange android wear watch m600 for about 3 years. They released flagship last year vantage V, which is not android wear.

                  2. Android wear is 80 % smart watch and 20 % sport watch. Suunto 9 is opposite ( 20 % smart watch and 80 % sport watch.

                  3. If you want a toy with perfect support for notifications, colorfull maps, go for it. You will charge it every single day, i can bet on this. My casio f21 worked 1 day and/or 3,5 hours with GNSS max.

                  4. 2 years is around and I think that in summer they will release suunto 10 WITHOUT android wear

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                    DmitryKo Bronze Member @Guest
                    last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 17:25

                    No external sensors… really? No watch screen customizations? No activity tracking to their own backend platform, besides Google Fit?

                    How does it differ from Fossil Q HR and other WearOS watches that sell for half the price?

                    Right now Suunto 7 looks like another step away from Suunto core user base - which also raises questions over the future Spartan-derived watches and the current Suunto App that works with the SportTracker back-end.

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                      zvonejan Bronze Member @DmitryKo
                      last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 17:26

                      @DmitryKo said in Suunto 7:

                      How does it differ from Fossil Q HR and other WearOS watches that sell for half the price?

                      50 m waterproof and name - Suunto

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                        Fenr1r @zvonejan
                        last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 17:28

                        @zvonejan said in Suunto 7:

                        Android wear is 80 % smart watch and 20 % sport watch. Suunto 9 is opposite ( 20 % smart watch and 80 % sport watch.

                        Perhaps the 7 is a werewatch.

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                          A Former User @DmitryKo
                          last edited by A Former User 1 Jun 2020, 17:45 6 Jan 2020, 17:32

                          @DmitryKo In all fairness, the Suunto magic dust is there:

                          • First party fairly sophisticated sports tracking app, with multiple views, stats, and all linking via Suunto platform to a variety of real deal services like Training Peaks. No need to use jokes of an app, which is the vast majority of Wear sports apps – Endomondo and Strava, I’m looking at you!

                          • Built-in full-color offline maps during your outdoor activity. How many watches except for high end Garmin have this?

                          • Heatmaps to pick your outdoor running without tapping too much around the phone and/or watch

                          • A fancy looking, and I’d imagine customizable to a degree like all WearOS watch faces, Heatmaps watch screen

                          • Your workout data is transferred into Suunto app where you can further slice it and dice it. The configurable lap tables are quite nice. Better than anything from Garmin or Polar in that regard. Same goes for weekly/etc. summaries

                          • FusedTrack / FusedAlt / FusedSpeed… Or is there a FusedTrack? Nah, I think there isn’t.

                          • More buttons than your typical Android smartwatch with 1-2, making sports usage and glove operation way more relevant

                          • Battery life: don’t remember LG Sport giving me anywhere close to 8 hours of OHR, GPS, and music. And it was bulkier than 7. Not to mention both its GPS and HR were horrific. Ditto for M600, though at least it was good HR wise and reasonable GPS wise.

                          The jury is out on OHR for me (though I tend to believe @Brad_Olwin it’s good because otherwise, why would Suunto go with changing the package?), but this might be another improvement over existing Spartan and S5/S9 lines.

                          I’m fairly certain future updates will add more functionality, though without a clear roadmap this is a no go at the current price.

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                            freeheeler @zvonejan
                            last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 17:53

                            @zvonejan said in Suunto 7:

                            2 years is around and I think that in summer they will release suunto 10 WITHOUT android wear

                            Suunto fancies uneven numbers for their new S-line… hence I bet it will be 11

                            living sideways

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                              jthomi
                              last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 18:32

                              So we have the S5 and S9 with their own Software and SuuntoPlus, all set with the SuuntoApp.

                              And now we have the S7 with a new Software for tracking activities and the Wear OS, with all this Google Stuff.

                              Two platforms where people have to work with at Suunto HQ. Oh my.

                              And I totally don’t understand why S7 doesn’t send Steps and Daily HR to SuuntoApp. This is nonsense in my opinion, I hope they change that. And adding Google, well I try to avoid Google. When all future watches will have this Wear OS stuff…hm. 🤔

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                                Brad_Olwin Moderator @Fenr1r
                                last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 18:56

                                @Fenr1r from the right direction it looks like a rabbit! I will snap a photo in the next couple of days:)

                                Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @jthomi
                                  last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 18:59

                                  @jthomi agree with you on activity tracking. Sure hope it gets unified into SA.

                                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                    jthomi @Brad_Olwin
                                    last edited by jthomi 1 Jun 2020, 19:07 6 Jan 2020, 19:06

                                    @Brad_Olwin It’s still a month till release and as far as I understand some posts here and on the web, there are still some beta functionality on the watch that needs to be get better. Remember, “your watch gets better every day”…😁

                                    So a lot of time to change some small things, or even bigger ones. Adding HR from chest belt should be crucial!!

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                                      Fenr1r @Brad_Olwin
                                      last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 19:11

                                      @Brad_Olwin Most generous: at your leisure, of course.

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                                        MiniForklift Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
                                        last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 19:29

                                        @Brad_Olwin Seems so. But oddly it seems to be holding battery pretty well during exercise, it’s the day-to-day use where it’s depleting quickly

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                                          Storz
                                          last edited by 6 Jan 2020, 19:38

                                          Will I be able to view the altimeter, barometer and heart rate graphs on the Suunto 7 during NON activity like you can with the Suunto 9?

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