Suunto 7

pilleus · 9 Dec 2020, 11:38

Here a Suunto watch face, called Original.

Fly Riviera · 10 Dec 2020, 14:14

thank you! I guess we need to touch more all those settings!

today I’m wondering if Suunto App has something similar like emergency contact and livetrack on Garmin, or beacon on Strava.

Steff · 26 Dec 2020, 18:46

Hi,

I’m thinking of buying a Suunto 7 and I have some questions:

The longest activities that I will do will be 10 hours hikes where I will also bring my phone.
Because the trails usually have many turns, using good GPS mode is not an option.
Will the watch last for 10 hours with best GPS mode, AOD off, and a map loaded with checking the map 1-2 times per hour ?
Will the fact that it will be connected to the phone help ? I know that is sharing the phone GPS and I’m thinking that it should help the battery life, but I saw on the forum that users experienced lower battery life when connected to the phone.
I also do several runs per week and I’m interested in improved recovery times, similar with what Garmin recently introduced, where they also use the sleep and daily activities for recovery times and vo2max. I know that improved recovery times might be a long stretch for Suunto considering that they don’t even have native sleep tracking but vo2max should not be something complicated because even 50$ fitness bands have it.
Are there any plans for sleep tracking and improved recovery times in the future firmware updates ?
If I will use 3rd party apps for sleep tracking (like Sleep as android), which sync with Google Fit, will this data be transferred into the Suunto app ? If not, are there any plans for this in the future updates?

Thanks

Brad_Olwin · 26 Dec 2020, 21:57

@Steff said in Suunto 7:

Hi,

I’m thinking of buying a Suunto 7 and I have some questions:

The longest activities that I will do will be 10 hours hikes where I will also bring my phone.
Because the trails usually have many turns, using good GPS mode is not an option.
Will the watch last for 10 hours with best GPS mode, AOD off, and a map loaded with checking the map 1-2 times per hour ?
Will the fact that it will be connected to the phone help ? I know that is sharing the phone GPS and I’m thinking that it should help the battery life, but I saw on the forum that users experienced lower battery life when connected to the phone.

I also do several runs per week and I’m interested in improved recovery times, similar with what Garmin recently introduced, where they also use the sleep and daily activities for recovery times and vo2max. I know that improved recovery times might be a long stretch for Suunto considering that they don’t even have native sleep tracking but vo2max should not be something complicated because even 50$ fitness bands have it.
Are there any plans for sleep tracking and improved recovery times in the future firmware updates ?

If I will use 3rd party apps for sleep tracking (like Sleep as android), which sync with Google Fit, will this data be transferred into the Suunto app ? If not, are there any plans for this in the future updates?

Thanks

Good GPS mode is an option, it does not matter if there are a lot of turns, FusedTrack is an algorithm that uses all the sensors to determine where you have been, it works amazingly well on tight turns. It is not simply a 10s GPS fix. This will give you ~16h of battery run time or longer. Connection to a phone does not matter, in fact, you will get better battery life with the watch in airplane mode.
and 3. Those here that know what is coming will not tell you because of NDAs, so these questions about future firmware updates cannot be answered. I can say there will be future firmware updates as S7 development is ongoing. The watch will give you a recovery time but no VO2Max. Google Fit is integrated and you can get data from that. Search for sleeping apps, they are available.

Steff · 27 Dec 2020, 06:35

Thank you for the answers.

I will definitely try good gps mode, but just in case I will not be satisfied with the accuracy, how many hours should I expect from best gps mode in those conditions (AOD off, loaded map with 1-2 checks per hour) ?
and 3. Understood. Just one question. Is the sleep data transferred from Google Fit to Suunto app?

Fabio D'Alleva · 27 Dec 2020, 09:47

@pilleus strange I do not have the HR complication? Did you have to install it from the play store?

pilleus · 27 Dec 2020, 10:12

@Fabio-D-Alleva install Heart Trace 2 from the PlayStore and it should be available.

Fabio D'Alleva · 27 Dec 2020, 10:35

@pilleus thanks that did it

pilleus · 27 Dec 2020, 11:56

@Fabio-D-Alleva said in Suunto 7:

@pilleus thanks that did it

Deactivate 24/7 in Google Fit and use heart trace 2 with the option to sync to Google Fit.

Brad_Olwin · 27 Dec 2020, 14:05

@Steff No, sleep is not transferred to SA, but this is a highly requested feature from users. I imagine Suunto is working on some sort of solution.
My longest in best GPS is 7-9h and in good gps 16-20h, it is difficult to tell the tracks apart.

olymay · 28 Dec 2020, 19:06

@Steff just add to what @Brad_Olwin has already mentioned about Good GPS, I did a two hour walk today, through some twisty residential streets and some open fields, all while using Good (10s) GPS. The track was SPOT ON!! This was my first time using Good GPS and I am amazed at how accurate it is! I think I will be using this mode a lot more in the future.

I think you can be confident that it will be plenty good enough for what you are after

Luís Pinto · 30 Jan 2021, 14:57

Suunto 7 questions from users experience until now:

How many hours hiking/running/cycling with navigation on, battery at beginning 100%, wrist hr on, best gps ?
How many hours hiking/running/cycling with navigation on, battery at beginning 100%, wrist hr on, fusedtrack gps on?

Mi_chael · 30 Jan 2021, 17:12

@luís-pinto

5-7h
GPS set to Good? 15-17h but if you use navigation the watch set GPS to Best.

Nigel Taylor 0 · 30 Jan 2021, 17:41

@mi_chael said in Suunto 7:

@luís-pinto
2. GPS set to Good? 15-17h but if you use navigation the watch set GPS to Best.

I’ve found it works just fine on Good for running (might be less usable cycling and covering more ground in the 10 second intervals) - in fact I’ve ended up defaulting all my running profiles to Good.

pilleus · 1 Feb 2021, 05:12

GPS set to good is no option for cycling. It is cutting corners and the GPS track is not really good. My opinion.

Mi_chael · 30 Jan 2021, 18:48

For me « Good » work pretty well for running, trail running and hiking.

Brad_Olwin · 30 Jan 2021, 23:35

@mi_chael said in Suunto 7:

@luís-pinto

5-7h

GPS set to Good? 15-17h but if you use navigation the watch set GPS to Best.

Why set to Best for navigation? I use Nav in Good fix.

Egika · 1 Feb 2021, 05:12

@pilleus said in Suunto 7:

GPS set to good is no option for cycling. It is cutting corners and the GPS track is not really good. My opinion.

I have tried good for cycling and my tracks were just fine.

Jeremiah Dudek · 24 Feb 2021, 00:58

@nickk I picked up an open box excellent one on Amazon for $247. Gotta say I am really impressed. I have a Galaxy Watch 3 also but also wanted a Wear OS watch. I personally don’t see this being a $399 watch. Now Suunto has been doing more than anyone by far and it’s without a doubt a premium watch. Unfortunately the fossils of the world and lack of Google support have given the OS the bottom of the barrel impressions. All Suunto can do is keep doing exactly what they are doing with the support and features and keep supporting it for a couple more years to build a long term fanbase rather than forget about it when the next one comes out. They certainly have done well so far. It’s the only reason I even bought it.

pilleus · 3 Jan 2021, 22:49

The notification screen changed and shows now other messages. The message “no notifications” changed to “ready” or “nothing found”.

Google announced this some days ago.