Suunto 7

Aleksander H · 8 Mar 2021, 13:45

@aleksander-h but I do not understand why it does not work even on my phone

Anyway, maybe we need a GPay thread.

Actually, are you sure you are trying to install the correct app? The new Google Pay app is only available in a few countries. Other countries, such as here in Norway, you have to download the one called “Google Pay (old app)”.

isazi · 8 Mar 2021, 13:48

@aleksander-h Google being Google

Jamie BG · 8 Mar 2021, 14:04

Its weird, but just because google pay on the phone works, doesn’t mean you can also use it on your watch.
Only officially supported countires for wear os GPay work from watch.

Been a lot of discussion around this, with the main thing being it doesn’t seem to be a bank issue based on some of the replies people have received back from their bank - issue seems to be on google side.
Google aren’t saying but from bits that have been pieced together it seems to be a security reason - i suspect probably regulatory/legal concerns preventing it. but who knows maybe it costs money and google don’t think the demand is there.

Bulkan · 16 Mar 2021, 10:08

What will come to ours s7?

https://techxplore.com/news/2021-03-google-os-custom-tiles-library.amp?fbclid=IwAR278hvPbI871l-BevV6pkYS1K9QhS26m0TPMm9WLiFFn1vvm2m4VOPgxcY

Nigel Taylor 0 · 16 Mar 2021, 10:31

@bulkan Not sure this makes much difference in real terms.

Suunto already have tiles & the ability to jump into the Suunto workout diary etc.

So - all this change is really going to benefit is potential enhancement for any 3rd party apps?

Aleksander H · 16 Mar 2021, 10:37

@nigel-taylor-0 it might mean that its now easier to create tiles than before, which might increase the likelihood of us getting more Suunto tiles.

Jamie BG · 16 Mar 2021, 11:59

@aleksander-h - would agree on that. Would be nice to have a daily tile with sleep tracking, Daily HR- loads of tiles that I can think of.
Plus suunto could now add those via playstore, instead of having to publish via firmware.

But would love to see more from google for calendar/ agenda/ reminders.

Think of Garmin eco system - effectively tiles.

Aleksander H · 16 Mar 2021, 12:24

@jamie-bg The suunto app gets delivered via firmware doesn’t it? I’m guessing its quite well baked into the firmware to prevent people from extracting the apk and installing it on non-Suunto devices. If I’m not mistaken, the tiles themselves follow the app they belong to.

pilleus · 16 Mar 2021, 12:53

@aleksander-h it’s no problem to install e. g. the watch faces on any other WearOS watch.

Aleksander H · 16 Mar 2021, 12:54

@pilleus I’ve seen watch faces get mentioned. Never heard of anyone managing to move the Suunto app over though.

pilleus · 16 Mar 2021, 13:00

@aleksander-h you can extract the app, install it on another watch, a library is missing to run it. For a developer it should be no problem to fix this.

Jamie BG · 1 Apr 2021, 15:27

@aleksander-h - true it is baked in, but if it has API (like I suspect it does) you can probably pull tile data for it.
And when you publish it on playstore you can limit it to model as well as country, so you could limit to suunto watches only.

But yes like anything in android, if you have enough dev skills its possible to pull stuff from apk/firmware and install it another watch, and while you could probably due that for suunto app, I suspect it may crash/not work properly due to what is built into the firware (thinking of power tilt saver for example as you are unlikely to pull that - thinking of how the suunto app, and other bits are integrated/adjusted from standard firmware, and based on this I would think you would have to flash the whole firmware onto the other watch to prevent crashed, and am not sure how feasible this would be due to potential built in to preventions.