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S7 roadmap: what are Suunto plans here?

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    A Former User @ursoos
    last edited by 17 Feb 2020, 00:19

    @ursoos said in S7 roadmap: what are Suunto plans here?:

    This acquisition looks like Google’s desperate move to finally build decent WearOS competition for Apple Watch.

    I’m a bit baffled by that purchase simply because I don’t see any way Wear OS can run on the range of devices Fitbit is producing, nor Fitbit OS scale up to the current Wear OS hardware. There are some aspects of Fitbit platform that are gems like coaching, social, and sleep analysis, but even absorbing this is going to be hard 🤷

    Whatever strategy they have in mind is unlikely to produce anything any time soon.

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      ursoos @Guest
      last edited by 17 Feb 2020, 20:47

      @NickK said in S7 roadmap: what are Suunto plans here?:

      @ursoos said in S7 roadmap: what are Suunto plans here?:

      This acquisition looks like Google’s desperate move to finally build decent WearOS competition for Apple Watch.

      I’m a bit baffled by that purchase simply because I don’t see any way Wear OS can run on the range of devices Fitbit is producing, nor Fitbit OS scale up to the current Wear OS hardware. There are some aspects of Fitbit platform that are gems like coaching, social, and sleep analysis, but even absorbing this is going to be hard 🤷

      Whatever strategy they have in mind is unlikely to produce anything any time soon.

      Fair point man!
      I hope they will axe most of the lineup and come up with one killer device like Google Pixel phone which is weird, but at the same time brilliant. In the meantime, we should stick with what’s on the market.

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        Manuel Silvestri Bronze Member
        last edited by 20 Feb 2020, 15:31

        Any idea if the item #10 in the list of @NickK will be implemented soon (I really really hope…I won’t sell again a Suunto after two months)?? I mean…even the S3 has these features and it is half the price!

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          A Former User @Manuel Silvestri
          last edited by 21 Feb 2020, 06:52

          @Manuel-Silvestri Public road map from Suunto would be appreciated. Even Microsoft is public today.

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            Manuel Silvestri Bronze Member @Guest
            last edited by 21 Feb 2020, 08:12

            @Urban-Olofsson I was meaning about VO2 max and other related features…but ok, also your suggestion would be usefull

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              JANTIKAINEN Bronze Member
              last edited by 21 Feb 2020, 08:32

              I hope they would add at least,

              1. External Sensor Support for Suunto wear app
              2. Route import and guidance
              3. The FirstBeat metrics

              For the External Sensor Support when using Suunto Wear, am I the only one who would be using the Smart Sensor memory function? This is the main reason why it’s the number 1 feature in my list to be added.
              I’m playing basket ball and can’t wear the watch while playing. I’d say the same thing would apply with other team sports.
              Team sports are anyway widely represented when selecting sport modes in the watch.

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                jthomi
                last edited by 21 Feb 2020, 09:57

                Public roadmap was often discussed here, but not official word from Suunto and I think there will be no roadmap in the future, or ever.

                @JANTIKAINEN
                I also think external sensor support is crucial. I for example have my Spartan watch strapped to the handlebar while mountainbiking. So there are many reasons to have this feature.

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                  Liam Larkin @Brad_Olwin
                  last edited by 21 Feb 2020, 17:26

                  @Brad_Olwin Hi Brad you mention #1 External sensors support: Heart Rate is available in other apps, can you please tell me which apps use the memory function as I have purchased one in the last 2 weeks for swimming and can not find an app using the memory function. Thanks Liam

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                    A Former User @Liam Larkin
                    last edited by 21 Feb 2020, 17:30

                    @Liam-Larkin None. I think to this day, the memory function is really vendor specific feature, i.e. Polar will support offline recording for their OH1 or H10 sensors, but nothing else.

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                      Liam Larkin @Guest
                      last edited by 21 Feb 2020, 17:40

                      @NickK Thanks Nick, bit naughty by Suunto advertising a smart sensor with memory but no way of using the memory!

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                        A Former User @Liam Larkin
                        last edited by 21 Feb 2020, 17:42

                        @Liam-Larkin I don’t think they ever said said sensor works with Suunto 7, let’s be clear about that. In fact, the manual doesn’t mentions sensors at all. What we have in third party apps like Sporty Go is a standard BLE sensor stuff, courtesy of Wear OS. Memory most definitely would have been a vendor specific feature.

                        Who knows? Maybe Suunto relents and adds sensors to 7? Maybe even memory. But as of now, nothing like this is available.

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                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Liam Larkin
                          last edited by 21 Feb 2020, 21:29

                          @Liam-Larkin @NickK is correct, no third party apps will support the memory function of the smart belt. I think Suunto knows this is a weak point for the S7, use in ball games, biking with the watch on the handlebars and other sports, even skiing where you might want the watch outside on a jacket. Since this is obvious I would not be surprised if Suunto has something in the works.

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                            Liam Larkin @Brad_Olwin
                            last edited by 22 Feb 2020, 11:21

                            @Brad_Olwin Hi Brad I managed to get the Movescount app but it does not record from memory when not in Bluetooth range, do you know if it has been decommissioned in the Movescount app. Thanks Liam

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                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @Liam Larkin
                              last edited by 22 Feb 2020, 20:56

                              @Liam-Larkin I don’t think the app does the syncing. I will test mine today.

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                                Liam Larkin @Brad_Olwin
                                last edited by 23 Feb 2020, 12:13

                                @Brad_Olwin Thanks Liam

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                                  Yak Ima Bronze Member
                                  last edited by 27 Feb 2020, 16:47

                                  We really need a clear roadmap from Suunto, just as they did with the Spartans.

                                  Look, they jumped the gun, they should acknowledge it and simply start moving forward accordingly. Polar did the same with their Vantages, showed a roadmap they have been fulfilling and Vantage M is a great sports watch now.

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                                    hubertus46 Bronze Member @Guest
                                    last edited by 29 Feb 2020, 17:32

                                    @NickK for me this is total madness:
                                    For structured workouts - what do I have to buy in the future ?
                                    A TP premium Account and a “Sporty Go” ( I know it`s free today ) app or other third party stuff ???

                                    All that Account `s and Data transfer between three or more companies ?

                                    Sorry …this can`t be the way - i say suunto please do your homework an give your
                                    firmware ( even the Spartan series ) a kick with structured Intervalls like other manufacurers have since many many years…

                                    So I will take my old Forerunner 610 from 2012 for advanced structured Intervalls…until suunto `will do
                                    their homework…

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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @hubertus46
                                      last edited by 29 Feb 2020, 18:09

                                      @hubertus46 Suunto, except on the ambits never had structured intervals. That is a known decision, and by all means without wanting to sparkle any debate, it’s not written anywhere on the specs nor is it a basic feature. Oh oh , I said it again but well I dont care ( about the basic feature)

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                                        Luís Pinto Platinum Member @hubertus46
                                        last edited by 29 Feb 2020, 18:38

                                        @hubertus46 I would be glad just with SuuntoPlus add-on “auto-intervals”… but just Strava yet.

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                                          Bulkan Moderator @Luís Pinto
                                          last edited by 29 Feb 2020, 21:09

                                          @Luís-Pinto I keep my hopes in Suunto Plus. Let’s see what they offer.

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