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Suunto 7: Love and Hate

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    A Former User @Luís Pinto
    last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 16:27

    @Luís-Pinto said in Suunto 7: Love and Hate:

    Garmin and Polar didn’t choose that direction for now with Venu/Ignite. There are rumours that new Fenix will have a Amoled screen version also.

    I think screen isn’t the biggest Garmin issue when it comes to watches. We can joke about Wear OS, or Tizen, or WatchOS all we want but the truth is: they are full featured operating systems, with well established development toolchains, and millions of developers who can target them. So, any advance in battery technology, screens, or CPU power consumption will make these watches more and more capable.

    Remember back in 2014 Adidas SmartRun? Kind of first smartwatch-like training watch, with LCD screen and music? It was fairly bulky, with small, low resolution screen, no waterproofing, custom locked down OS and no apps. Between a middling GPS, somewhat decent OHR, and DRM free music, you’d be lucky to get 3-4 hours of training on a single charge from that thing.

    And look now! Barely five years later we have Suunto 7, much thinner and lighter and more robust unit, with a huge, bright, high res screen, and probably easily capable of twice the hours. And before and after the workout, you have all sorts of apps to use, and weather, and payment, and fancy watch faces with complications. Not to mention activity tracking and 24/7 heart rate.

    I think what I’m trying to say… It is S9 and Fenixes and Vantages that are going the way of the dodo bird. Not next year. Not in 5 years. But probably 8-10 years from now we’ll be looking back and shrugging. How could you just have a watch for running? It’s like just having a mobile phone for calls only. Weird.

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      Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Guest
      last edited by Luís Pinto 2 Feb 2020, 17:22 2 Feb 2020, 17:15

      @NickK
      I think you’re overreacting in time. Within two years there will be no new models to be launched with a reflective screen in brands like Garmin, Suunto and Polar. AW is a champion in sells for smartwatch category. But is very restritive. Just works with iOS devices. Stryd team made a excelent app for WatchOS. Personally, circular design is more pleasure than rectangular.

      Samsung will launch a smartphone with graphene battery this year. What is announced is with these batteries of the same size will have plus 45% capacity and 15 minutes of full charge. Many experts expect this material in new batteries for electric cars too.

      Now imagine the 3330 successors with dual frequency gnss capability and still consuming less. And screens with this resolution and also consuming less … Soon, soon, you will have sportwatches with autonomies of 40/50 hours.

      And agree with you, we will look for present models like the prehistory of sportwatches.

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Luís Pinto
        last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 17:48

        @Luís-Pinto dual frequency atm doesn’t offer anything. I have the one plus that supports it and meh.just commenting on this

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          Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by Luís Pinto 2 Feb 2020, 18:06 2 Feb 2020, 18:03

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos (OnePlus) Did you try in static mode or moving or both?

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Luís Pinto
            last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 18:10

            @Luís-Pinto all modes. I wanted to use it as reference but was always worse than my s9

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              Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
              last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 18:14

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Serious? Every technical report says the opposite… https://www.esa.int/Applications/Navigation/Dual-frequency_smartphone_app_winners_prove_power_of_two

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Luís Pinto
                last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 18:45

                @Luís-Pinto we have talked about it again at your post. You missed I suppose the Ghostbusters antenna setup.

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                  last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 18:47

                  This was posted by you

                  https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=forums&srcid=MTI3Mjc0MjQxMzM4MDczNTkwNDABMDgxMDkwNzI5MzgwMTI5NTgwNjIBU0ROTUFoRXRCd0FKATAuMQEBdjI

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                    last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 2 Feb 2020, 18:49 2 Feb 2020, 18:48

                    Screenshot_20200202-204807.jpg

                    Yeah right or am I wrong ?

                    Feel free to ask for tracks. Actually let me post my accuracy

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                      Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 18:51

                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Yes i remember. Yes, antenna that these guys used is like total stations (ex: Leica systems).

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                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Luís Pinto
                        last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 18:51

                        @Luís-Pinto Screenshot_20200202-205102.jpg

                        I see l5 and e5 but no accuracy increase

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                          Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 18:52

                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos https://www.instop.es/arbre/intro-gps-leica.php

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                            Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                            last edited by Luís Pinto 2 Feb 2020, 19:08 2 Feb 2020, 18:56

                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos maybe in small devices with internal antennas like smartphones the usefull is marginal. Curious normally every sat have different frequencies, but in your printscreen i see just one Navstar (L1 and L5), two in Gal(E1 and E5) and no one from Glonass and Beidou. BDS-3 sats have this capability and glonass K.

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                              Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 18:59

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Beidou signal in your printscreen is cool: two sats with > 30.

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                                Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 19:04

                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I read from you that you are getting good results with Nav+BDS solution. Did you confirm?

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                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Luís Pinto
                                  last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 19:29

                                  @Luís-Pinto yes sir. The best in line. I ditched gali

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Luís Pinto
                                    last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 19:30

                                    @Luís-Pinto gali can be more accurate , eg more close lines on come and go under good conditions. Beidou did never fail me

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                                      Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                      last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 19:33

                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos In all different activities? Hiking/running/bike?

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                                        Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                        last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 19:39

                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 7: Love and Hate:

                                        gali can be more accurate , eg more close lines on come and go under good conditions. Beidou did never fail me

                                        Terrestrial corrections are very important for system integrity. It’s what makes diference in american system WAAS for so long. Europe is getting stability with EGNOS (but need more redundancy), and China with SNAS.

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                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Chan Wai Kit
                                          last edited by 2 Feb 2020, 19:48

                                          @Chan-Wai-Kit Always on screen will eat into your battery life. If you can use powersave tilt. I did a 4h 40 min run today and finished with 32% battery left.

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