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Software update 2.11.38 for S5/S9

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    A Former User @Jonathan Schwarz
    last edited by A Former User 29 Mar 2020, 07:24

    @Jonathan-Schwarz said in Software update 2.11.38 for S5/S9:

    @NickK I agreed! My experience with the OHR has been poor, at best. I tried all the tips - several fingers above the wrist, velcro strap snug, wait 1-2min after HR appears before starting. It still, very often, just gives me a HR value that is close to my cadence. Sometimes it will settle into something resembling my HR - then will just, like you said it, “go off the rails”

    With SW updates wOHR went very reliable to me. Seems to be perfect.
    I also found out that doing it this way with the wristband is a boost for me.
    Wrist does not get cold so fast, what leads to false results probably and watch does not wobble.
    This is special to me, because I have very thin wrists, which also get very fast very cold.
    So this has nothing to do with Suunto. Cold arms are not good circumstances for wOHR.
    I also run in cold temperatures with gloves.
    I think there are people which alway have warm wrists, which do not have to take care of getting cold.

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      isazi Moderator
      last edited by 29 Mar 2020, 16:13

      Did a 2 hours walk today (still keeping social distance, people are getting better at this and everyone smoothly moves to opposite sides) with two watches. The track of the S9 with GPS+Baidou was good but not as good as yesterday, but you know different days and different conditions. Still more than acceptable, but maybe today GPS only would have been enough (I’ll never know).

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        zvonejan Bronze Member
        last edited by 29 Mar 2020, 17:24

        In my opinion one test is not a test. 5 days in one same track witn one setting (e.g GPS) and then another 5 days on that same track with another setting (e. g GPS + BAIDU). The worst track from first 5 and another 5 can be removed because we all know, that bad days can happen. And then if first 4 in group are significantly closer with less deviation than second four, you have the answer

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          Bulkan Moderator @zvonejan
          last edited by 29 Mar 2020, 18:06

          @zvonejan Agree, maybe we could set a protocol for this forum to tell about the accuracy of the GPS.

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            isazi Moderator
            last edited by 29 Mar 2020, 18:22

            Those are my training runs/walk around the neighborhood, always the same few since 2015 or so, so I know what to expect in terms of accuracy. I’m not aiming at scientific comparisons, mostly at show me where I have been on the satellite view and don’t make me swim in canals and lakes.

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              nseslija Bronze Member @isazi
              last edited by 29 Mar 2020, 19:03

              @isazi same thing, test walks in the neighborhood, regular walking paths three days in a row, two times BeiDou and one with GPS only. All three were very bad, one of the worst, if not the worst, with S9B… I hard reset the watch yesterday…and will try next week again… I hope to have better results…

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                A Former User @Guest
                last edited by 29 Mar 2020, 19:41

                @mountainChris Good theory re: cold wrists. Trouble is, I’ve been having issues even during much warmer months like September and October in New York, and neither my Polar, nor Garmin, nor even Suunto 7 seemed to suffer during coldest time in January and February.

                I think S9 high profile and a wobble it introduces does play a role. But I definitely don’t remember it being that much of a problem soon after the initial release. Nor do I remember this being an issue that much on Spartans.

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                  sartoric Moderator
                  last edited by 29 Mar 2020, 21:50

                  I would say that the real utility of the wrist warmer is not to keep the wrist warm, but to keep the watch firm 🙂

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                    Łukasz Szmigiel @sartoric
                    last edited by 29 Mar 2020, 22:06

                    @sartoric I have the same observation when using long sleeves that have a cutout for thumb - I like to use this cutout for watch and hardly ever experience strange ohr readings with this setup.

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                      surfboomerang @nseslija
                      last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 07:07

                      @nseslija keep us informed. I did a soft reset and tried GPS only. It was acceptable but not great. Galileo and Glonass were both horrible. They were ok before the firmware update.

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                        Saketo Nemo Moderator
                        last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 07:33

                        I took two 10-minute walks, round trip and the track was very good.
                        Running on the same pre-upgrade route, however, the first track was better, the second worst (yesterday, very cloudy, this also counts).
                        I’m curious to try again only GPS and GPS + Galileo.

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                          ___Alejandro___ @sartoric
                          last edited by ___Alejandro___ 30 Mar 2020, 07:45

                          @sartoric Actually, these wristbands are not designed to keep your wrists warm. Oddly enough, because the wrists do not get cold so fast, these wrist bands (from X-bionic) are supposed to regulate the heat flow from the wrists in order to cool you down (so called, evaporation cooling effect 👨‍🔬 ). That’s the theory according to the company. It’s science, man!

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                            sartoric Moderator @___Alejandro___
                            last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 08:09

                            @Alejandro
                            Yep, I know, but remember “It cools when you sweat. It warms when you are cold”
                            😁 😁 😁

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                              ___Alejandro___ @sartoric
                              last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 12:47

                              @sartoric Ah! Yes, I see… 🙃 😆

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                                nseslija Bronze Member @nseslija
                                last edited by nseslija 30 Mar 2020, 14:02

                                @surfboomerang I went for a walk today on my stanard route using Beidou, and the track is much better then the first three were prior the reset. it was on the same level like good tracks with the previous firmware. If I’m able to I will do the same walk tomorrow… The hiking is now impossible, the cycling is questionable… but with this couple of walks (flat) it seems that Fusdalti is improved…

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                                  jsr184 Bronze Member @Michał Rudzki
                                  last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 15:44

                                  @Michał-Rudzki from IG Suunto’s reply about future of Spartan line:
                                  Screenshot_20200330-164159_Instagram.jpg
                                  It is quite clear what it means (at least to me).

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                                    A Former User @nseslija
                                    last edited by A Former User 30 Mar 2020, 17:25

                                    @nseslija … about bad tracks and restart…

                                    Strange. I never had a bad track on my S9 and never had to reset the watch. Never…
                                    My S9 runs like a machine. Precision built-in…

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                                      surfboomerang @nseslija
                                      last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 18:39

                                      @nseslija I will try to hard-reset the watch tomorrow. See if that solves the issue

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                                        nseslija Bronze Member @Guest
                                        last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 19:01

                                        @mountainChris Between upgrade and clean install I will always choose clean install… this things can happen…If it is an upgrade issue at all… 😀
                                        Regarding the S9B… yes, it is a good watch, accurate and reliable , I really like it…

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                                          nseslija Bronze Member @surfboomerang
                                          last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 19:06

                                          @surfboomerang I am still not sure if it’s the hard reset that changes things for the better. If it is not a bother for you give it a try…

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