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    Steff @Brad_Olwin
    last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 05:09

    @brad_olwin how did you get the battery estimates in QS?

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      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Steff
      last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 14:03

      @steff From json files.

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        Steff @Brad_Olwin
        last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 14:34

        @brad_olwin thank you, very nice, I didn’t know about this, I was wondering if there is a more precise way than remembering the percentages when starting and when stopping

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          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Steff
          last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 17:16

          @steff if you have an Android phone you may be able to extract them but these estimates are fairly good. Again, attempting to estimate from short exercises will not provide accurate estimates.

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            Steff @Brad_Olwin
            last edited by Steff 6 Aug 2021, 19:11 8 Jun 2021, 19:11

            @brad_olwin yes, I saw how.

            @isazi Today I made almost exactly your test: 1h12min walking, best GPS, connected to phone, no route loaded, no interaction with the watch.
            Additionally I put the watch in DND to not receive notifications and also autolaps notifications were without sound and vibrations.

            These are the results

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            A big difference from your results.

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              isazi Moderator @Steff
              last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 19:16

              @steff every test is different. I have a new test with elevation planned for tomorrow.

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                Brad_Olwin Moderator @Steff
                last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 19:32

                @steff We do not know what 3rd party apps you have or what watch faces, these may have elements that cause the watch to search for data and reduce battery life. I had an altimeter app installed that seemed to dramatically reduce my overall battery life.

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                  pilleus @Brad_Olwin
                  last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 19:40

                  @brad_olwin said in Battery LIfe:

                  cause the watch to search for data and reduce battery life

                  I do not install apps which need the permission for location service. As soon as the airplane mode is activated the app will use internal GPS to find the location. That is a real problem for battery life.

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                    Steff @Brad_Olwin
                    last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 20:05

                    @brad_olwin I only have 4 apps(altimeter barometer, feal the wear(disconnect alerts), stand up alerts, Shazam) installed and several watchfaces, even though I use only the Suunto watchfaces.

                    I will uninstall them all and try again tomorrow.

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                      pilleus @Steff
                      last edited by pilleus 6 Aug 2021, 20:09 8 Jun 2021, 20:08

                      @steff said in Battery LIfe:

                      altimeter barometer

                      Via sideload? I think the app from xda is not the best solution for the battery.

                      I use a barometer based altimeter without location service and no additional battery usage.

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                        Steff @pilleus
                        last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 20:21

                        @pilleus yes, the one from XDA, sideloaded.

                        Which baramoter app do you use?

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                          pilleus @Steff
                          last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 20:31

                          @steff

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                            Nigel Taylor 0 Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                            last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 20:35

                            @brad_olwin said in Battery LIfe:

                            @steff From json files.

                            Excuse my ignorance, but is there a way to enable or show this, I’d love to see battery estimate data against my activities.

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                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @Nigel Taylor 0
                              last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 21:19

                              @nigel-taylor-0 You have to download json files, this can be done on Android but not on iOS AFAIK. I have access to these as a tester but do not know how to download them on Android, ask @Steff

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                                Mff73 @Nigel Taylor 0
                                last edited by 9 Jun 2021, 04:51

                                @nigel-taylor-0
                                https://forum.suunto.com/post/33052

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                                  Nigel Taylor 0 Bronze Member @Mff73
                                  last edited by 9 Jun 2021, 11:29

                                  @mff73 So the JSON from the phone rather than the JSON exportable from QS already.
                                  Cheers, that explains why I couldn’t see it.

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                                    Steff
                                    last edited by Steff 6 Sept 2021, 11:46 9 Jun 2021, 11:45

                                    The easiest way to extract the json files is the following:

                                    1. Make sure that the activity is synced in SuuntoApp

                                    2. Install any file explorer which allow viewing of hidden system files.
                                      I use X-plore (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lonelycatgames.Xplore&hl=ro&gl=US) but there are many other options on PlayStore

                                    3. Go to /Internal Storage/Android/data/com.stt.android.suunto/files/smlzip/

                                    4. There you will find the activities synced in SuuntoApp, with a zip archive for every activity, named with the following format “entry_-1111111_1111.zip”
                                      The easiest way to identify an activity is to look at the date of archive file, assuming you synced the activity in the same day.

                                    5. In every archive there are 2 files samples.json and summary.json
                                      Extract the “sample.json” somewhere.
                                      The simplest way is to copy the entire arhive somewhere (eg. Internal storage/Download) and extract it using any file explorer.

                                    6. Upload the sample.json in https://quantified-self.io/

                                    These steps are working only for Android.
                                    For iOS I don’t think it’s possible to extract these files.

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                                      Mff73 @Nigel Taylor 0
                                      last edited by 9 Jun 2021, 11:59

                                      @nigel-taylor-0
                                      Yes, from the phone (android phone, as well explained by @Steff )

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                                        Steff @Brad_Olwin
                                        last edited by 9 Jun 2021, 19:21

                                        @brad_olwin I uninstalled all 3rd party apps and watchfaces and made the exactly same test as yesterday on the same route.

                                        These are the results

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                                        So, almost exactly the same, even a little worse.

                                        I ran out of ideas …

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                                          Jamie BG Bronze Member @Steff
                                          last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 11:16

                                          @steff
                                          Shouldn’t make an difference but worth a try.
                                          In your gesture settings do you have tilt to wake on? If so try it with touch to wake only, and see if that makes a difference.
                                          And of course lock your keys while tracking.

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