Battery LIfe

MeazzaS9 · 3 Nov 2021, 21:13

ve just had a look through my Suunto 7 and I can confirm I have all of those apps installed too. It looks like they are part of the system and can’t be removed (unless you start diving into some advanced methods, but that may cause more problems).
I am getting an easy 48hrs battery life from mine, so I doubt these apps are the issue.
It does seem your Bluetooth battery usage is very high.
Right now my S7 is at 64% battery (fully charged at 1300 GMT yesterday, it is now 0913 GMT) and the Bluetooth usage is at 3%.
Compared to your settings, mine are as follows:

Continuous heart rate ON
*Bluetooth on with all notifications on
*WiFi set to auto
*Auto updates active
*Sleep monitoring enabled
*I never put my watch into aeroplane mode.

I do put my S7 into cinema mode overnight, but that is purely to stop the screen lighting up and to put it into do not disturb mode, I don’t believe it would affect the battery much, if at all.
You say you put it into aeroplane mode when not in use, what do you mean by not in use? When you are not wearing it?

At home I don’t wear it so I put it in airplane mode

olymay · 4 Nov 2021, 08:30

@meazzas9 said in Battery LIfe:

At home I don’t wear it so I put it in airplane mode

For a day or two could you try wearing it whilst at home and therefore not putting the watch into aeroplane mode? I’m not sure why or how this could be causing the drain, but it’s worth ruling things out.

Honest question, is there a reason you don’t wear it home? By not wearing the S7 you lose out on much of the benefits of the health tracking - 24/7 HR, body resources, sleep tracking, etc. These all only work if the watch is worn for as long as possible.

I recently had random and sudden battery drain, but I am pretty confident mine was down to YouTube Music. Even after removing YTM I still had the issue, I had to do a full factory reset to clear it.
Have you had any other apps installed recently (particularly YTM or Spotify?) that you have subsequently removed?

MeazzaS9 · 4 Nov 2021, 20:54

@olymay said in Battery LIfe:

or a day or two could you try wearing it whilst at home and therefore not putting the watch into aeroplane mode? I’m not sure why or how this could be causing the drain, but it’s worth ruling things out.
Honest question, is there a reason you don’t wear it home? By not wearing the S7 you lose out on much of the benefits of the health tracking - 24/7 HR, body resources, sleep tracking, etc. These all only work if the watch is worn for as long as possible.
I recently had random and sudden battery drain, but I am pretty confident mine was down to YouTube Music. Even after removing YTM I still had the issue, I had to do a full factory reset to clear it.
Have you had any other apps installed recently (particularly YTM or Spotify?) that you have subsequently removed?

I do not wear it at home simply out of habit, even for sleep monitoring I am afraid of breaking it.
Yes, I tried to install you tube music but without success (it was an area with little field) so I canceled almost immediately, could it be enough to complicate things?
Which app should you use for offline music not have problems?

Thanks

olymay · 5 Nov 2021, 08:45

@meazzas9 said in Battery LIfe:

I do not wear it at home simply out of habit, even for sleep monitoring I am afraid of breaking it.
Yes, I tried to install you tube music but without success (it was an area with little field) so I canceled almost immediately, could it be enough to complicate things?
Which app should you use for offline music not have problems?

Thanks

I can one thing for certain, you will not break this watch whilst sleeping. The S7 is built like a tank and is very, very strong! I have clonked mine against brick walls, dropped it on the floor, bashed it on trees, fallen over wearing it, snagged it on clothes, and more. And the watch itself still looks almost brand new (the original strap however is now looking less than pristine!).
Please, do not worry about breaking this thing.
If you want to get the most of out the health monitoring - recourses and sleep tracking, etc. - then try wearing it 24/7 (although I recommend not wearing it in the shower/bath, as any soap that gets trapped behind it can cause skin problems - this is the perfect time to charge it instead).

Since you have tried YouTube Music and deleted it and are experiencing a similar issue to what I had, this seems a bit of a coincidence to me. I believe YTM is flawed (as is Spotify) and causes battery drain. The only way I was able to resolve it was to do a factory reset (although I didn’t have long to explore options, as I needed the watch urgently for a race).

Other apps for offline music - I can’t help here as I haven’t used any, sorry.

One thing I will say however, is that listening to music from the watch will rip through the battery, as it stops the watch entering low power mode during activity tracking.
I did some tests in the past (with offline music on Spotify, but it would be the same with any player) and was getting roughly 30% battery drop per hour. When I wasn’t listening to music I was getting roughly 10-12% drop per hour. Quite a difference!!

My recommendation is that if you want to listen to music then either take your phone, or a small mp3 player etc. Listening to music from a WearOS device is possible, but it eats through the battery.

judnoe · 5 Nov 2021, 09:09

Buenos días.
Para escuchar música tengo instala la app WearMedia, tanto en el móvil como en el reloj.
Solo la instale para probar la transferencia de archivos de música del móvil al reloj y para probar los auriculares BT.
No te puedo decir como se comporta con la batería, ya que solo lo use para jugar con el reloj.
Normalmente llevo el móvil y escucho la radio.

Jamie BG · 5 Nov 2021, 11:35

@olymay @MeazzaS9
I found that NavMusic worked well for me in regards to playing my own offline music.Might get around 6-7 hours using this from what I remember. (Has a built in transfer system from phone to watch or you can use his NavExplorer app).

I will also confirm what @olymay says in regards to its durability - you have to try really, really hard to damage this watch, and normal use will not do it (even hitting the road hard barely marked the bezels flanges).

Will slightly disagree on the showering - in that while this was also my common time for charging, to tack advantage of sleep tracking & resources - you also do want to wash the watch semi-regularly (just remember to lock the touch screen) - especially if you have been sweating. I also recommend switching to opposite wrist when sleep tracking, to give your normal wrist a break and a chance to breathe.

olymay · 5 Nov 2021, 11:46

@jamie-bg said in Battery LIfe:

Will slightly disagree on the showering - in that while this was also my common time for charging, to tack advantage of sleep tracking & resources - you also do want to wash the watch semi-regularly (just remember to lock the touch screen) - especially if you have been sweating. I also recommend switching to opposite wrist when sleep tracking, to give your normal wrist a break and a chance to breathe.

My comments on the showering are due to there being a chance of a small amount of soap residue getting trapped and staying in contact with the skin. This can cause skin problems which people usually then attribute to the watch.

Personally, I think it more important to remove the watch when showering, to ensure the wrist is thoroughly cleaned and rinsed off.

I always rinse my watch in fresh water after every exercise, and in 18 months of use there is no gunk or residue anywhere on the watch, not even in the smallest nooks.

MeazzaS9 · 5 Nov 2021, 20:48

@olymay said in Battery LIfe:

@meazzas9 said in Battery LIfe:

I do not wear it at home simply out of habit, even for sleep monitoring I am afraid of breaking it.
Yes, I tried to install you tube music but without success (it was an area with little field) so I canceled almost immediately, could it be enough to complicate things?
Which app should you use for offline music not have problems?

Thanks

I can one thing for certain, you will not break this watch whilst sleeping. The S7 is built like a tank and is very, very strong! I have clonked mine against brick walls, dropped it on the floor, bashed it on trees, fallen over wearing it, snagged it on clothes, and more. And the watch itself still looks almost brand new (the original strap however is now looking less than pristine!).
Please, do not worry about breaking this thing.
If you want to get the most of out the health monitoring - recourses and sleep tracking, etc. - then try wearing it 24/7 (although I recommend not wearing it in the shower/bath, as any soap that gets trapped behind it can cause skin problems - this is the perfect time to charge it instead).

Since you have tried YouTube Music and deleted it and are experiencing a similar issue to what I had, this seems a bit of a coincidence to me. I believe YTM is flawed (as is Spotify) and causes battery drain. The only way I was able to resolve it was to do a factory reset (although I didn’t have long to explore options, as I needed the watch urgently for a race).

Other apps for offline music - I can’t help here as I haven’t used any, sorry.

One thing I will say however, is that listening to music from the watch will rip through the battery, as it stops the watch entering low power mode during activity tracking.
I did some tests in the past (with offline music on Spotify, but it would be the same with any player) and was getting roughly 30% battery drop per hour. When I wasn’t listening to music I was getting roughly 10-12% drop per hour. Quite a difference!!

My recommendation is that if you want to listen to music then either take your phone, or a small mp3 player etc. Listening to music from a WearOS device is possible, but it eats through the battery.

Even today 14% went away for the bluetooth, I will try the reset.
I will wear it as much as possible
It seems absurd that having wears os I am forced to keep the clock by default because any app gives problems, or am I wrong?
I keep you updated

Thanks

olymay · 5 Nov 2021, 22:51

@meazzas9 said in Battery LIfe:

Even today 14% went away for the bluetooth, I will try the reset.

That does seem very high. I have just charged mine to full, so can’t check what my Bluetooth usage is right now, but I will have look again tomorrow and Sunday.

I will wear it as much as possible

Make sure you have continuous HR, resources, and sleep tracking turned on. I think you’ll find the data quite interesting - and hopefully useful.

It seems absurd that having wears os I am forced to keep the clock by default because any app gives problems, or am I wrong?

I’m not sure what you mean? You can install many apps and use them happily on the watch. I’ve used Google Keep a few times with great success. I also use the assistant on my watch a fair bit.
However, where this watch really shines is in the fitness tracking and health data.

I keep you updated

Please do

Thanks

MeazzaS9 · 7 Nov 2021, 19:48

@olymay said in Battery LIfe:

@meazzas9 said in Battery LIfe:

Even today 14% went away for the bluetooth, I will try the reset.

That does seem very high. I have just charged mine to full, so can’t check what my Bluetooth usage is right now, but I will have look again tomorrow and Sunday.

I will wear it as much as possible

Make sure you have continuous HR, resources, and sleep tracking turned on. I think you’ll find the data quite interesting - and hopefully useful.

It seems absurd that having wears os I am forced to keep the clock by default because any app gives problems, or am I wrong?

I’m not sure what you mean? You can install many apps and use them happily on the watch. I’ve used Google Keep a few times with great success. I also use the assistant on my watch a fair bit.
However, where this watch really shines is in the fitness tracking and health data.

I keep you updated

Please do

Thanks

Even when I reset my S7 the battery problem remains.
Loaded at 10 am to 8 pm it is 23% without particular use … some notification.

It is objective that there is a problem
He had a period that in 2 days absorbed 2/3% the bluethooth

isazi · 7 Nov 2021, 19:52

@meazzas9 contact support.

olymay · 7 Nov 2021, 21:11

@isazi said in Battery LIfe:

@meazzas9 contact support.

I echo this, something definitely isn’t right. My S7 is at 47% battery and the estimated life left is approx 1 day 2 hrs.

olymay · 8 Nov 2021, 16:52

@meazzas9 i promised an update on my S7 from Friday, sorry for the delay. I accidently put it on charge briefly on Saturday (it’s automatic for me to put it on charge when I have a shower), so it has lasted a bit longer then expected.

During this time, I did no activity tracking (letting a knee injury recover) but did receive quite a large number of notifications.

As you can see, the battery life is significantly more than yours, but what stands out to me is the Bluetooth battery usage. It does seem like this is where your battery is being drained. Maybe a setting is causing an issue? Either on the watch or the phone? Or maybe there is a hardware issue? Contacting support may be your best best, sorry

Side note, have you tried wearing it 24/7 yet? Have you got the body resources and sleep tracking data? If so, how are you finding it?

MeazzaS9 · 17 Nov 2021, 12:56

@olymay said in Battery LIfe:

@meazzas9 i promised an update on my S7 from Friday, sorry for the delay. I accidently put it on charge briefly on Saturday (it’s automatic for me to put it on charge when I have a shower), so it has lasted a bit longer then expected.

During this time, I did no activity tracking (letting a knee injury recover) but did receive quite a large number of notifications.

As you can see, the battery life is significantly more than yours, but what stands out to me is the Bluetooth battery usage. It does seem like this is where your battery is being drained. Maybe a setting is causing an issue? Either on the watch or the phone? Or maybe there is a hardware issue? Contacting support may be your best best, sorry

Side note, have you tried wearing it 24/7 yet? Have you got the body resources and sleep tracking data? If so, how are you finding it?

The Bluetooth connection makes me last the battery of the S7 around 14 / 18h.
The discharge trend is sudden and continuous until the phone is restarted, on more than one occasion I have noticed that the discharge curve is much slower and consumption approaches 2/3 days.
In the days with the best battery estimate, the bluetooth “fault” degradation accounts for 1%, the biggest problem is that consumption starts to rise for no apparent reason … I find myself with the modified battery curve and the bluetooth percentage> 12 %
My use of S7 is as a smartwatch (for sent work, notifications and calls), for outdoor uses S9Baro.
Count that the clock is “exploited” more in working hours.
In the night monitoring with “normal” bluetooth it absorbs me 6/9% instead when the problem occurs it even reaches over 40%
The connected mobile is a Samsung A40 with the latest updates.

Here is the configuration of my Suunto 7

Suunto dial
Rotate the wrist for energy saving
brightness 2/5
24h HR monitoring
sleep monitoring
screen off 5 seconds
do not disturb when not worn
increase brightness with sunlight OFF
WIFI OFF
-NFC OFF
Use position from phone and watch OFF
vibration
tap to reactivate
show point for notification

I sent the whole report to assistance, let’s see what they say

olymay · 17 Nov 2021, 13:12

@meazzas9 There is definitely something strange going on here. I have just had a new best of 56hrs of battery life from my S7 (no activity tracking during that time, just used as smartwatch).
This is still with my usual settings:
AoD off
power saver tilt
many notifications
24/7 HR on
sleep tracking on
etc.

You mention that it is a Bluetooth bug that only happens now and then. I wonder if this could be related to something on the phone? Maybe there is an overly aggressive power setting on the phone that is killing the connection to the watch, thus causing the watch to hunt for a connection? This would cause it to drain the battery quickly?

Just a thought…

MeazzaS9 · 17 Nov 2021, 19:42

@olymay the next step is a reset of the phone and if that weren’t enough I will change phones

olymay · 17 Nov 2021, 19:57

@meazzas9 check the power/battery settings in the phone first, it could be a simple fix that doesn’t require a reset.

Worth a try.

If unsure, do a Google search for battery optimisation on your specific phone.

Make sure it isn’t killing WearOS or the Suunto App (i think WearOS migt be the important one here)

BinoWorld UK · 20 Nov 2021, 13:42

@steff Hi there

Just got my S7 three days ago and I already charged it like three times between playing around checking the apps……

Today, I charged it to 100% at 7am it’s 13:30pm and my battery went down to 85% without any usage?!

It says I have one day left.

Watch idle 3%
Android System 2%
Android OS 1%
Bluetooth 1%

Is this normal?

I have raise to wake off
Screen is also off
No Wifi
No NFC
Brightness on Auto
Auto app update off

Using Suunto Stock face

Any help would be appreciated
Thanks

olymay · 20 Nov 2021, 14:15

@optics-field-test WearOS (as with Android on pones) takes roughly a week to fully settle down and to adjust to your typical usage. This is part of the adaptive battery and means the first few days will not be representative of true battery life.

If after a week you still get poor battery life then it is worth looking at. But in the mean time it’s nothing to worry about.

BinoWorld UK · 20 Nov 2021, 14:26

@olymay Hi,

Thank you mate for the swift response and reassurance.

I hope the battery will improve, I will certainty give it a week and see if things improve. So far it seems worst then my my Apple Watch S6.

Btw the watch arrived dead with no battery at all. Not sure if this bad or not?

Finger crossed!

Thanks