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    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Michał Rudzki
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      @Michał-Rudzki and just to be clear (again ) it doesn’t mean that it’s still connected. It’s just bad implemention from the 3rd party.

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      • Michał RudzkiM Offline
        Michał Rudzki
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        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos to be clear it’s not about a bad implementation it’s a BUG, I already requested to the support but not answer and no response. I don’t know who the hell is working in Suunto and what developer implement that, but to be honest, if you writing a code that is responsible for the connection to the 3rd party you are also thinking about implementing VISIBLE disconnect process in the App itself. I know I am using now beta, but good sake!!! the motto of yours is/was “progress beyond logic” and for now I am don’t see any logic neither progress. You should at least understand some part of the frustration in the community as a developer… it’s a shame

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          margusl @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Management of permits with third-party services:

          @Michał-Rudzki and just to be clear (again ) it doesn’t mean that it’s still connected. It’s just bad implemention from the 3rd party.

          What if tokens applied for 3rd party have leaked, their service has been compromised or 3rd party just decided that it’s more profitable to shut down and pass on all SA tokens for highest bidder? There’s always market for health and location data.

          If a 3rd party service decides to cut me off, I currently have no way to block them from accessing my SA data.

          Knowing that I might not be able to revoke tokens from one single place and instead I’m in mercy of 3rd party implementation and intentions ( no way of telling if “disconnect” at their side was just a UI mockup ) sure reduces the eagerness to connect to more services.

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          • Michał RudzkiM Offline
            Michał Rudzki
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            @margusl hi, I’ve been in contact with ‘Today’s plan’ and some others, and all of them sent me information after when you decide to disconnect suuntoAPP from 3rd party application (from theiers services) they sending to Suunto Error 401, it’s a matter of handle the exception (remove tokens from that services etc…) and change a flag to FALSE or TRUE (don’t know how they manage that) on SuuntoApp and show the service is no more connected (clear information for user otherwise you can’t trust information that is shown on SuuntoAPP about other services)…

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Michał Rudzki
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              @Michał-Rudzki I understand you and @margusl

              But to answer your issue you are in conact with they should implement https://apizone.suunto.com/docs/services/oauth2-api/operations/deauthorize

              When a user disconnects from X service (Suunto or Garmin etc) the X service should send a deregistration to Suunto or Garmin and so on.

              I do understand the need for a Suunto side button to deauthorize an app and that is clear.

              However what I also understand is that those services have not implemented the deauthorize flow.

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                cemoi71 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                Hello I grab this topic out again, the issue is not solved.
                Here my story about the issue:

                last month I wanted to test some service partner apps, and connect the suunto app to them.
                Now I want to disconnect some of them, because I don’t use them and don’t need them.
                The problem that i find is the following one:
                First on the partner app after login, I disconnect the link to the suunto app.
                Then I deleted the account.
                By one partner app I didn’t found the link to the app, and I deleted my account.
                By all that I’ve closed, I get a confirmation that all deleted account are successfully deleted.
                but by the suunto app is still displaying as connected.
                I see that in general we can’t disconnect the suunto app to the service partner from suunto app.

                Why it’s still as connected when the connection is broken side from service partner?
                same as if account is service partner is deleted?

                I’ve read all the posts in the past here, but sorry i’m not agree that the responsibility is placed only on 3th party app or service partner.
                What if the service partner is not reliable? what if the service partner has issues or should spontaneously shutdown?
                Even if it’s still the responsibility to service partner to communicate to suunto, suunto shall guaranty the connection, and check if it still available on own side or not.
                And give the possibility of user to manage in all part on the chain. Means give the possibility the user to manage it.
                Means, if it’s not available, then disconnect.

                Technically if we mind that nothing happened from connection that nothing bad could happened.
                How to know if it’s all clean by suunto app side, if it don’t take system resources more as expected?
                A clear disconnection should be guaranteed technically and visually too for the user.

                That’s for me clearly an ux design issue, and the suunto managers shall have a 2nd look on it.
                But sorry I feel that’s not user friendly => a no go for me
                Maybe there were no really intentions, or not really thought deeper in concept. I don’t know,
                Nevermind, would be fine if the suunto team could reconsider to have look again on the concept of it… please

                Have nice time all.

                Cheers

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                • EgikaE Offline
                  Egika Platinum Member
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                  I for myself can disconnect partner services from within the suunto app.
                  Just tap on the currently connected service and at the bottom of the screen there is a disconnect button…

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                    cemoi71 @Egika
                    last edited by cemoi71

                    @Egika Hi thank you very much for your answer.
                    I’m really surprised that you can.
                    On my side it’s not possible.
                    Could you please give your app version ?
                    I have the v2.27.8

                    maybe a screenshot on how it does look like?

                    Cheers

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                    • sartoricS Offline
                      sartoric Moderator
                      last edited by sartoric

                      As previously said, some partners services (eg .TP) have this option, but those are exceptions due to the kind of partnership

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                        cemoi71 @sartoric
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                        @sartoric do you know where nested this difference of src-code part. in suunto code?

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