Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?

lohtse · 13 Oct 2020, 15:08

@stromdiddily said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@lohtse yeah, losing the apps does suck. I never used them but can definitely understand the frustration there.

I honestly don’t remember, were we able to actually update watch settings directly in the Movescount app? Or did the app just allow for updates made on the browser to sync automatically/via bluetooth?

I’m with you on not fully grasping while any of these sync technology can’t be ported over to the app. Perhaps viewed as throw away work that they’re not willing to commit resources to.

Yes you could change settings in the app for Ambit 3s, Same as you could use foot pods,bike pods and HR Monitirs Directly in the app with out the need to connect it to the watch, something that has not been added to the lovely useless Suunto App…

Something else that is bothering me…Why can’t we have a fully functioning movescount web and Suunto App??? Not perfect but better than it is going to be, At least we would keep full functionality of the watches…

keight · 13 Oct 2020, 19:52

@lohtse don’t think so, i’ve used SportsTracker as free online, pretty basic tool to track my run with my phone before i had my Ambit3 few years ago. And i had paired up Movescout with SportsTracker. But agree: SportsTracker, as well as SuuntoApp is sooo basic, nothing to compare to Movescout online.

lohtse · 13 Oct 2020, 20:50

@keight said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@lohtse don’t think so, i’ve used SportsTracker as free online, pretty basic tool to track my run with my phone before i had my Ambit3 few years ago. And i had paired up Movescout with SportsTracker. But agree: SportsTracker, as well as SuuntoApp is sooo basic, nothing to compare to Movescout online.

go have a look at this https://quantified-self.io/ blood excellent in my opinion… Just a shame it had to be done…

Nigel Foxhall · 13 Oct 2020, 21:23

@lohtse
Guys I’m totally new to this forum so would appreciate some clarification. I have been an Ambit3 Sport user for some Time now and love the watch. I synced via Movescount And then collected all my training into Training Peaks. Very happy customer !
Now I tried SuuntoApp and have
a) no data from my vector3 power pedals (it’s definitely still stored on the watch but not synced to the App and so I don’t get it in Training Peaks
b) my swim data used to keep only moving time in Movescount. Now with SuuntoApp it’s total time only. This means all the TSS calls in Training Peaks are worthless.

Are these issues known or am I doing something stupid ?
Will a newer Suunto watch solve these issues ?
Should I just change to Polar and forget Suunto (not because of the watch but because of SuuntoApp)?

lohtse · 13 Oct 2020, 22:09

@Nigel-Foxhall said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@lohtse
Guys I’m totally new to this forum so would appreciate some clarification. I have been an Ambit3 Sport user for some Time now and love the watch. I synced via Movescount And then collected all my training into Training Peaks. Very happy customer !
Now I tried SuuntoApp and have
a) no data from my vector3 power pedals (it’s definitely still stored on the watch but not synced to the App and so I don’t get it in Training Peaks
b) my swim data used to keep only moving time in Movescount. Now with SuuntoApp it’s total time only. This means all the TSS calls in Training Peaks are worthless.

Are these issues known or am I doing something stupid ?
Will a newer Suunto watch solve these issues ?
Should I just change to Polar and forget Suunto (not because of the watch but because of SuuntoApp)?

welcome

Sadly you are not being stupid…Suunto does not sseem to think ambit owners need that data anylonger try using https://quantified-self.io/

now idea about newer watch.,… but then you should not have to change when it worked perfectly before Suunto screwed us…

amasidlover · 14 Oct 2020, 05:06

@Nigel-Foxhall said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

a) no data from my vector3 power pedals (it’s definitely still stored on the watch but not synced to the App and so I don’t get it in Training Peaks

This is known and a fix is being worked on according to @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos - I haven’t seen an ETA for the fix.

Not sure about the swimming one; although that will be a real nuisance for me since at least with power I can use the files from my cycling head unit (messy workflow but better than nothing…)

Interestingly Movescount App worked all day for me yesterday and is still working today - I don’t plan on switching until either Movescount App refuses to work or the power (and now swimming…) bugs are fixed.

Janfi · 14 Oct 2020, 17:26

@amasidlover Hoping that they definitively forgot to turn off the MC App server side, as they forgot to turn off movescount study and as they forgot old customer care
As this I love the digital transition

isazi · 14 Oct 2020, 17:47

@Janfi apparently the transition will be longer, and they are not shutting down everything yesterday as planned.

Bulkan · 14 Oct 2020, 17:52

@michaeldwilson enjoy running with the web interface!

Janfi · 14 Oct 2020, 18:11

@isazi ah you broke my heart if it’s only longer…

isazi · 14 Oct 2020, 18:13

@Janfi someone said 2021 at least. More news coming at the end of the week. Search the forum for more discussion, but some discussion may break your heart.

lohtse · 14 Oct 2020, 18:15

@isazi said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@Janfi someone said 2021 at least. More news coming at the end of the week. Search the forum for more discussion, but some discussion may break your heart.

And stomp your feet…ALOT…

michaeldwilson · 14 Oct 2020, 22:15

@Bulkan said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@michaeldwilson enjoy running with the web interface!

Yay!! Thanks!!!

Bruno Jacq · 12 Nov 2020, 11:10

Both the App and MovesCount habe been worth due to the transition:

I cannot see the Moves on MC anymore, but just plan a route, et set the watch parameter.
The App makes it impossible to set the watch parameters, to download a GPS track, to modify the GPS points, …
The App shows very strange HR-Profiles, like a crazy saw, what was not the case on MovesCount.
The App calculates the run distance new, after the upload of the track: 10,0 km on the watch, 9,71 on the App. It makes me crazy.

It would really stay only on MovesCount, with all the functions and possibility it offered ! And with the easyness on PC, compared to a Smartphone display…

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 12 Nov 2020, 11:11

@Bruno-Jacq are you using iOS ? I think there is a bug when editing an activity that it changes the distance… can this be it ?

A Former User · 11 Dec 2020, 13:48

@Bruno-Jacq said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

Both the App and MovesCount habe been worth due to the transition:

I cannot see the Moves on MC anymore, but just plan a route, et set the watch parameter.

The App makes it impossible to set the watch parameters, to download a GPS track, to modify the GPS points, …

The App shows very strange HR-Profiles, like a crazy saw, what was not the case on MovesCount.

The App calculates the run distance new, after the upload of the track: 10,0 km on the watch, 9,71 on the App. It makes me crazy.

It would really stay only on MovesCount, with all the functions and possibility it offered ! And with the easyness on PC, compared to a Smartphone display…

Why you don’t? You still can.
Install movescount app, moveslink, and suunto app.
Sync with movescount app or moveslink and then if you want your moves on suunto app sync with suunto app.
If you don’t want to have two apps, you can use rungapp.

Bruno Jacq · 12 Nov 2020, 16:43

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I thought, that the App uses the tracks of the maps to adjust the distance. Could it be? If not, then I have a bug…

Bruno Jacq · 12 Nov 2020, 16:47

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I use Android 10.
Thanks.

Bruno Jacq · 13 Nov 2020, 08:55

@André-Faria I couldn’t do anything with MovesCount anymore. No upload from the watch anymore. So I changed to the SUUNTO App. I upload the GPS tracks from the watch via the SUUNTO interface on PC SuuntoLink, and can only see the moves on the App. The Movescount account is just frozen since move nr. 400 on 20 of June 2020.
But the watch parameters are only available on Movescount… I have no access to the watch parameters on the SUUNTO App. Is it normal?
Thanks.

A Former User · 13 Nov 2020, 09:02

@Bruno-Jacq said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@André-Faria I couldn’t do anything with MovesCount anymore. No upload from the watch anymore. So I changed to the SUUNTO App. I upload the GPS tracks from the watch via the SUUNTO interface on PC, and can only see the moves on the App. The Movescount account is just frozen since move nr. 400 on 20 of June 2020.
But the watch parameters are only available on Movescount… I have no access to the watch parameters on the SUUNTO App. Is it normal?
Thanks.

Strange, I made the switch to SA, but since I didn’t enjoyed it, I continue to use moves count normally, via moves link or even moves count app on iOS.
Everything works fine.
Even found out that you can sync with moves count app and Suunto app on same phone, seamlessly.
And recently you don’t even need to do that, rungap does it for you.
It is normal that you don’t have access of watch settings on Suunto app.
Maybe this video help to understand how new workflow is done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8VwhU99AIM

still, till now you are not obliged to use it.