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Software update 2.12.30 Staged Release for S3/S5/S9

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    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Łukasz Szmigiel
    last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 10:16

    @Łukasz-Szmigiel it registers manual laps. So you can keep autolaps as you like and or interval laps. Should work with all those no issue.

    Only issue is that if you want also manual laps and you do these it might get confusing.

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      azeanic @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
      last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 11:50

      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Does it work with the interval function on the watch? Do i still have to autolap each time or does it take cues from the interval.

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @azeanic
        last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 11:53

        @azeanic

        Ok let me put this down

        Suunto watches atm have 3 type of laps:

        • Interval -> Made when you add an interval screen automatically
        • Distance/Duration -> Made based on distance/Duration automatically
        • Manual -> you press the button and makes a lap

        Each of these laps can encapsulate (contain) more than one of the others. There is no limitation there.

        For example

        You make a manual lap after your intervals/or 1km distance lap and that lap should contain the previous version.

        You can flat down the laps in the Sunnto app by type (and on QS)

        When you use the S+ features that create laps those laps are manual.

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          jw cou Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by jw cou 9 Aug 2020, 12:12 8 Sept 2020, 12:10

          I’ve just tested the Loop function, it’s a great add-on!!
          Special kudos for the lap duration being highlighted in green / red on the S+ screen when a lap is finished, to indicate if it’s your best lap or not, and for the lap count / best and avg lap duration being shown permanently in SA (on top of the “manual” laps generated) after.

          A small detail that could be improved: when you start a run the S+ screen will show “Loop 1”, and it will stay “Loop 1” after hitting the manual lap button and starting the loops tracking. Then when the second loop starts, it becomes Loop 2 etc… It would be better if “Loop 0” or “Loop -“ was displayed before hitting the manual lap button. It doesn’t affect that stats / loop counts, just creates a bit of visual confusion.

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @jw cou
            last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 12:15

            @jw-cou Well it assumes the first loop is the starting point (so you are already doing that).

            Thats why loop1.

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              jw cou Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
              last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 12:19

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I don’t understand what you mean… what’s happening currently:
              -Start of the run: loop 1
              -Start of the first loop / hit manual lap: loop 1
              -Finishing first loop / “automatic” manual lap : loop 2
              -…

              In the end the manual laps are:
              -warmup/reaching the beginning of the loop
              -loop 1
              -loop 2
              -…

              So it would make more sense to have
              -Start of the run: loop 0 (or - or “warmup” or…)
              -Start of the first loop / hit manual lap: loop 1
              -Finishing first loop / “automatic” manual lap : loop 2
              -…

              Or am I misusing the function?

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @jw cou
                last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 12:21

                @jw-cou you are using it fine but:

                You could also have not pressed the lap button to pinpoint the loop start. The loop start would be then your starting point.

                Example like you did.

                • I leave home , run to the track and field -> press lap button and the first loop happens etc

                Example differently:

                • Go to the track and field start running , dont press any lap button. it will take the starting point and start creating loops

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                  Maryn Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                  last edited by Maryn 9 Aug 2020, 12:28 8 Sept 2020, 12:22

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                  Thank you for clarification. Why in SA we have only one type of LAP field?
                  If I have enabled auto lap and use also manual laps then what value will be shown under LAP avg pace?
                  Scenerio:

                  • Auto lap 1km
                  • I press manual lap after 1,3 km distance. My avg lap pace will show my pace for next 700m?
                  • When I reach 2km auto lap will start working and AVG lap pace field will show my avg pace for next 1km (2km-3km) (assuming I won’t be pressing the Lap button) or from 1.3 km, continuing (auto lap at 2km will not affect it) ?

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                    isazi Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                    last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 12:30

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Software update 2.12.30 Staged Release for S3/S5/S9:

                    • Go to the track and field start running , dont press any lap button. it will take the starting point and start creating loops

                    I didn’t know this! I’ll try it at the track later in the week!

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                      jw cou Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by jw cou 9 Aug 2020, 12:31 8 Sept 2020, 12:30

                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos that’s clear thanks! I thought one had to press the manual lap button to initialize the loop tracking, but I understand now that it will also happen if you go back to your starting point, in case your starting point is the beginning of the loop

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                        herlas Silver Members
                        last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 12:57

                        I’ve had two cases of random reboots on my S9B with the new version , one right after the software finished installing, one more this morning when I leaved the swimming start screen on for a while , once I noticed, tried to go back and it just rebooted.

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @herlas
                          last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 13:00

                          @herlas we are aware about the reboot that happens sometimes after FW update.

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                            last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 13:01

                            We also updated the manual (like finally ) https://www.suunto.com/fy-nl/Support/Product-support/suunto_9/suunto_9/suuntoplus/suuntoplus-loop---lap-timer-speed-pace-power/

                            Should show that about loop

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                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Maryn
                              last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 13:03

                              @Maryn said in Software update 2.12.30 Staged Release for S3/S5/S9:

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                              Thank you for clarification. Why in SA we have only one type of LAP field?
                              If I have enabled auto lap and use also manual laps then what value will be shown under LAP avg pace?
                              Scenerio:

                              • Auto lap 1km
                              • I press manual lap after 1,3 km distance. My avg lap pace will show my pace for next 700m?
                              • When I reach 2km auto lap will start working and AVG lap pace field will show my avg pace for next 1km (2km-3km) (assuming I won’t be pressing the Lap button) or from 1.3 km, continuing (auto lap at 2km will not affect it) ?

                              I dont understand so well but in SA you should be able to see all lap tupes with their tabs there.

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                                lexterm77 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                last edited by lexterm77 9 Aug 2020, 16:09 8 Sept 2020, 13:21

                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                                Why no weather insight documentation? I will go out in soaking rain to test route eta on a trail right now because I can’t wait.

                                Edit: found documentation on the very end of manual.

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                                  fritzbt2013 Bronze Member
                                  last edited by fritzbt2013 9 Aug 2020, 13:23 8 Sept 2020, 13:22

                                  I noticed my ability to turn footpod sensor on/off is available again (i.e. fixed) . In prior firmware the sensor option disappeared after I turned off.

                                  Is there a list of the rest of the fixes somewhere?

                                  Also, If anyone has a screenshot of Waypoint name on S9 please share. Haven’t had time to test yet. Thanks

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                                    lexterm77 Bronze Member @fritzbt2013
                                    last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 13:29

                                    @fritzbt2013

                                    I am also going out to test wether wrist hr switch screws up target distance bar.

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                                      Fenr1r
                                      last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 17:03

                                      Re SuuntoPlus Safe:

                                      If there’s anyone out there with an S9 set up to use a local position format … does it apply to the coordinates in the Safe screen?

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                                        lexterm77 Bronze Member @Fenr1r
                                        last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 19:11

                                        @Fenr1r

                                        I tried two, ones with degrees with decimals and one with deg minute seconds, safe screen corresponds to your navigation setting position format selection.

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                                          Fenr1r @lexterm77
                                          last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 19:24

                                          @lexterm77 That matches the manual description, “Latitude / Longitude”; thank you for checking. I was really wondering if Safe would carry over a user’s local (national) grid instead of Lat/Long (S9 manual 3.27). If there ain’t such a national grid in your parts, never mind.

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