S7 Staged release

Egika

personally wouldn’t use it for cycling as would think that a 10s reading could cause issues like this due to the distance that can be covered. Slower sports like walking, running, SUP etc should be fine. Also not sure I would use it for hiking either due to evelation issues and area definition where you may need to make dramatic adjustments for features.

Though is a bit surprising on this track as it is so straight.

I would not complain if it wasn’t in the release notes:
“When running or cycling, FusedTrack is used to improve tracking quality.”

This is new in the S7 compared to FusedTrack implementation in S9, so I had hopes…

Jamie BG

@Bulkan - would be great to have the S9 watch face as an optional watch face or even better as a possible tracking screen that can be added, along with other s9 tracking screens and as possible tile. Would be awesome to have a weather barometer tile…

isazi

@Jamie-BG said in S7 Staged release:

Would be awesome to have a weather barometer tile…

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@Jamie-BG said in S7 Staged release:

Any chance we may see some of the S3/S5/S9 features that were dropped?
Would be great to have similar watch screen functionality with barometer etc.
Would also be great to have that locked point/navigation function,
And would be nice to have the loop, cadence and other tracking improvements.

Any reason, other than including in coding, as to why the S7 couldn’t have those excellent features too?

Couldn’t agree more

makzam

@Jamie-BG said in S7 Staged release:

@Bulkan - would be great to have the S9 watch face as an optional watch face or even better as a possible tracking screen that can be added, along with other s9 tracking screens and as possible tile. Would be awesome to have a weather barometer tile…

And others little things that in my opinion should be easy to add, for example:

autopause
ability to setup heart rate or rhythm alarms
ability to setup a time or distance targets
if the S7 has a barometer, why not a storm alarm?
in the current activity (running, etc) by default the current time is showing, but is small size, a lot of people use glasses, please, increas this font.
These ares basics things to have a better watch.

Thanks.

Egika

@makzam said in S7 Staged release:

if the S7 has a barometer, why not a storm alarm?

According to the spec sheet, S7 already has “various options via Google Play” Store doing this.
So far noone has found an app that actually does it…

makzam

@Egika said in S7 Staged release:

@makzam said in S7 Staged release:

if the S7 has a barometer, why not a storm alarm?

According to the spec sheet, S7 already has “various options via Google Play” Store doing this.
So far noone has found an app that actually does it…

Yes of course, we can use 3rd party application’s, but I my opinions that basic things should be natives in the suunto apk. For example an alarm for heart rate, if I tracking my exercise with suunto this alarm ahould be managed by suunto…

Egika

@makzam yes, that’s definitely valid for a function inside the Wear App.
I was just (sarcastically) commenting on the storm alarm one - which is not something i would require from activity recording.
And still I am waiting for this 3rd party app (and hoping for someone posting a link here…)

makzam

@Egika these small things are include in others watches, for example in my old spartan, why not here if this watch is newest and with better specs?
I dont talking about complex things, these are basics characteristics.
Please suunto, listen us!!

I dont know if there is a place to do petitions or request improvements¿¿¿???

Thanks again.

Egika

@makzam it’s this forum that has been orinigally started to do exactly this: collect user input and prioritize it for Suunto’s product and portfolio management. To be precise this was meant to happen for the App only. And it works by voting for the various suggestions.
So if your wish get’s enough votes, it will show up in a report and probably be considered

Now, I guess (and this is only my personal impression), that the different models from Suunto differ by featues according to the targeted user.
S9B is the more outdoor flagship, while S7 is primarily a smartwatch with Suunto built quality and compatibility with it’s app. Battery runtime does not make it ideal for multiday outdoor adventures - and with this (and the possibility to program stuff by oneself) comes the dismission of storm alarm.
Not that I like it - I am just trying to explain the priorities that happen somewhere in every company with limited ressources.

makzam

@Egika yes yes, that is clear for mi…but if suunto wants be the best, should be offers the best.
And in my opinion I am not requesting complex things, (in my opinion) are basics things that others cheapers smartwatch has.
I appreciate your answers, thanks a lot.

Brad_Olwin

@makzam said in S7 Staged release:

@Egika yes yes, that is clear for mi…but if suunto wants be the best, should be offers the best.
And in my opinion I am not requesting complex things, (in my opinion) are basics things that others cheapers smartwatch has.
I appreciate your answers, thanks a lot.

I think @Egika stated it fairly clearly. The S7 is not marketed or targeted to a user that would purchase an S9. Whether that is a good idea or not could be debated but IMHO Suunto wanted to make the S7 as easy to use as possible for the “Urban Athlete”. Frankly, I am pleasantly surprised by the recent updates as again IMHO they are more targeted to an S9 user or S5. I have some of the same issues you do. As the S7 stands today, if I did not have one I would now purchase one to complement my S9 even though I am an iPhone user. I used an Apple Watch for some time and while it is a better smart watch, the exercise options even with 3rd party apps are nowhere near as good as the S7. I could get ~12h on my AW4 if using connected GPS on the iPhone (the watch alone maybe 6-8h max). Now the S7 can go close to 15h…amazing!

I do not think you will see parity of S7 with other watches as they serve different markets but it doesn’t hurt to ask and I vote too.

makzam

Brad, I am absolutely agree with you, S7 is not S9.
I am very happy with the watch, I think that is fantasctic, but I think some things are missing, not for an experienced user but for amateur athletes.
For example, some days I want run in a park near from my home, by the way there a lot of traffic lights, should be fantastic the autopause option. And these days I would like run at pace of 5:30 km/mim, an alarm could be very useful to do the training more productive.
I am talking about basics things for urban users, not a specifics options for mountain users or others advanced athelets (we can forget the storm alarms).

Thanks again, and thanks for your answers!!

Brad_Olwin

@makzam I know that the Field Testers are also asking for auto pause…I have. Definitely something that I would have expected the S7 to have.

JorgeFD

Am I the only who think that the duration of waypoint alerts in screen is not enough? Since you feel the vibration and beep until the alert disappears I think you have 3 seconds or less. For me it is impossible to read

Jamie BG

System Version H MR2?
My understanding from what I have read is that this is supposed to be the new wear os update that google announced for fall release - can anyone confirm that?

If that is the case, what occurred to the weather update that was supposed to be in the update?
Battery life improvement - to soon to tell in regards to general use and if Suunto app extends battery life (abnormal use at the moment as I test and check features).
Reduction in time to launch apps - difficult to tell as they normally launch so quickly anyhow, however based on the Suunto app which occasionally used to show a red swirl on black background - which now brings up app straight away; and the play store app which used to show 1/2 green swirls on black background and now doesn’t - yes I would say this is quicker - but really barely noticeable as was originally very quick.

Anyone else noticed anything along these lines - and do we really have the fall update; if so where is our improved weather app.

@Jamie-BG said in S7 Staged release:

System Version H MR2?
My understanding from what I have read is that this is supposed to be the new wear os update that google announced for fall release - can anyone confirm that?

I saw this:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/09/09/suunto-7-smartwatch-is-first-to-receive-major-new-wear-os-update/

And from article and official by Google:
https://support.google.com/wearos/thread/70069141?hl=en

Jamie BG

@Metalmi - I know but based on what I am seeing compared to what we expected based on Google’s statements - I am wondering if we really do have it or not. Or if it is structure for the next release; and the additional bits like weather etc will be somehow dropped later.

@Jamie-BG said in S7 Staged release:

@Metalmi - I know but based on what I am seeing compared to what we expected based on Google’s statements - I am wondering if we really do have it or not. Or if it is structure for the next release; and the additional bits like weather etc will be somehow dropped later.

Don’t know about that. This might be just a performance improvement, hopefully, the rest won’t be dropped.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

The weather update will most likely come through Play Store