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    Anssi Auvinen @Brad_Olwin
    last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 05:45

    @Brad_Olwin You can clearly see even with that S9 data what is wrong. I repeated the same hill 4 times and it does not show the same elevation every time down or up. Right elevation came if I waited some minutes without moving.

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      Mff73
      last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 05:53

      have you tried cleaning your baro sensor ?
      too much delay in correct altitude/pressure reading may come from sensor being “blocked” by some dust or else.

      You can eventually try also to downgrade firmware to previous one and see if your guess that it is FW related is true.

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        Anssi Auvinen @Mff73
        last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 05:54

        @Mff73 Yes, I had the watch one night in water and after that i rinsed it with running water.

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          Anssi Auvinen
          last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 06:00

          example.png

          Here you can see that is just working too slowly.

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            Mff73 @Anssi Auvinen
            last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 07:04

            @Anssi-Auvinen
            Are you with Android SuuntoApp ?
            If yes, you could also try to import the SA raw data file into QS and see GPS altitude registered by the watch. We may be able to see something different. Raw data files can be found in the phone (see this link https://forum.suunto.com/post/33052)

            But if you sensor is clean, and “just” behave slowly, and if you think it is like that only since latest FW, i personnaly would have downgraded FW to be sure of this (if you are able to reproduce the phenomenon).

            Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
            Suunto Vertical all black
            Wife : S9PP
            SA: Always the latest beta :)
            Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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              Anssi Auvinen @Mff73
              last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 07:07

              @Mff73 Im iOS user and I think this problem started before the latest update (I have only checked data from last couple weeks), but I can try to downgrade next week.

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
                last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 08:20

                @Anssi-Auvinen can I have a QS link ?

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                  Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                  last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 08:26

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos here is from this morning: https://quantified-self.io/user/0NQynLXMmLPswXyjLJcHqdLJvam2/event/1WqeCPgJDXeuZsr8qH79

                  Another one earlier in the chat.

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
                    last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 08:26

                    @Anssi-Auvinen could you make it public ? (click on the lock icon or press share from the menu)

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                      Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 08:28

                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Now it’s public

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                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
                        last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 08:33

                        @Anssi-Auvinen from what I see https://www.loom.com/share/58fff68c2bd64691b06a0d8d8033352b

                        The flats have 2m diff. The ups 2m

                        The start to end have 10m (within limits)

                        Screenshot 2020-09-24 at 10.32.35.png Screenshot 2020-09-24 at 10.32.47.png Screenshot 2020-09-24 at 10.32.51.png Screenshot 2020-09-24 at 10.32.29.png

                        To me it looks ok

                        I wonder as well how the garmin is

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                          Mff73 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 08:53

                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                          could it be that altitude is registered correctly, but ascent is not growing as quickly as expected ?

                          Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
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                          Wife : S9PP
                          SA: Always the latest beta :)
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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Mff73
                            last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 09:02

                            @Mff73 that can be for sure…

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                              Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 09:04

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos That seems ok, but i dont think it’s right. From previously posted qs link you can see the differences better. I have also 2 rides from june and september where route was quite same, differences in the start and the end, but june ride has 300m+ more and event the september should have more. I will try to crop them in qs for matching parts.

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
                                last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 09:05

                                @Anssi-Auvinen keep me posted on the next ride. A QS link will help as always. I understand the issue and and forwarding the feedback as needed

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                                  Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 09:06

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Next ride will be a race, so there maybe i can get strava statistics from other riders.

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                                    Anssi Auvinen
                                    last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 09:14

                                    Cropped june and september rides with matching routes:

                                    June (860+m): https://quantified-self.io/user/0NQynLXMmLPswXyjLJcHqdLJvam2/event/vV5bafVvaJ9F8ujgKN3n

                                    September (680+m): https://quantified-self.io/user/0NQynLXMmLPswXyjLJcHqdLJvam2/event/vV5bafVvaJ9F8ujgKN3n

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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
                                      last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 09:14

                                      @Anssi-Auvinen keep in mind that Strava does it’s own thing. Also garmins etc.

                                      What I do is parse the altitude from many DEMS to avoid particular faults from services

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                                        Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                        last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 09:21

                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Strava shows at least same elevation gain than suunto app if you dont do elevation correction.

                                        Here’s those 2 rides merged:
                                        https://quantified-self.io/user/0NQynLXMmLPswXyjLJcHqdLJvam2/event/dtWKtQzjB9aahYuSdJTO

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                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
                                          last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 09:23

                                          @Anssi-Auvinen I see.

                                          Take a look Screenshot 2020-09-24 at 11.22.37.png

                                          Both have identical high and low but not gain and loss. Could that be wind ? Something on how the watch is placed ?

                                          How do you place the watch ?

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