So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?

A Former User · 13 Oct 2020, 09:35

So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?

Gonna use runalyze.com with my A3

lohtse · 13 Oct 2020, 10:14

@MartinLX said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

Saw this today on the Suunto web site on the next migration dates. I cannot see since when this is online, so sorry in advance for maybe posting what everyone already knew. There is a -30% loyalty offer for Spartan, Ambit and Traverse owners that I hope at least for some might be a possible path. Offer is valid from 01 October 2020 to 31 March 2021.
https://www.suunto.com/en-be/Content-pages/suuntos-digital-services/#transition_offer
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We are now at the stage when the following changes will take place:

October 13, 2020
• Suunto 9 and Spartan: Movescount App and Movescount web functionalities will be closed (all training data remains accessible)
• Ambit3 and Traverse: Movescount App is closed

October 27, 2020
• Ambit (3,2,1) and Traverse family watches no longer sync exercises to Movescount web. (syncing settings, sport mode customization, and routes still available)
• SuuntoLink replaces MovesLink2 as service connection to Suunto app

We have put together guidance for all watches impacted by these changes, see below.

Suunto loyalty offer

In addition, if you own a Spartan family, Ambit (3,2,1) or Traverse watch, we have created a special loyalty offer for you, read the details below.
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The fact they have offer a loyalty , really a bribe Spartan family, Ambit (3,2,1) or Traverse watches suggests to me that they always intended to KILL the watches off…Kill them offer so we buy a newer watch…Surely they should be trying to support us better, thats loyalty.

Prenj · 13 Oct 2020, 10:32

Well you’ll get better “loyalty” offer from Amazon today LOL
https://www.amazon.com/Suunto-9-Watch-White/dp/B07D5YDBNG

lohtse · 13 Oct 2020, 10:34

@Prenj said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

Well you’ll get better “loyalty” offer from Amazon today LOL
https://www.amazon.com/Suunto-9-Watch-White/dp/B07D5YDBNG

lol

BUT I want a fully featured and functioning Ambit 3 Peak.

Jamie BG · 13 Oct 2020, 10:34

@regger - using the phone app: in the description of each activity you can add details, which you can then search on when in the summary view. For example I tend to add the EPOC details, battery usage (wear os thing), and some other bits and pieces, whether I was connected to phone, GPS mode, Fused tracking or best etc. Which quickly enables me to see all activities with that detail.

stromdiddily · 13 Oct 2020, 14:51

@Prenj careful on the assumption regarding Garmin device dependency on their app or web service. Their entire ecosystem (including watches) went down w that ransomware attack a few months back.

Prenj · 13 Oct 2020, 14:59

@stromdiddily said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@Prenj careful on the assumption regarding Garmin device dependency on their app or web service. Their entire ecosystem (including watches) went down w that ransomware attack a few months back.

But most of the watch settings could have been changed on the watch itself and you could still download your activities to computer and upload them wherever you like.

A Former User · 13 Oct 2020, 16:11

@stromdiddily said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@Prenj careful on the assumption regarding Garmin device dependency on their app or web service. Their entire ecosystem (including watches) went down w that ransomware attack a few months back.

In that time I bought an edge 530 and had zero issues setting it up and using all features that I needed. Configuration was done on the device. Files were also possible to upload somewhere and even updates could be done with the update file.

lohtse · 13 Oct 2020, 16:27

@stromdiddily said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@Prenj careful on the assumption regarding Garmin device dependency on their app or web service. Their entire ecosystem (including watches) went down w that ransomware attack a few months back.

Show me a web service that this could not happen too… That is just the sign of the times and is something that you expect too happen… Shutting down a perfectly good service and making people use something not suitable is not what you expect… I would have liked to see IMPROVEMENTS…But hey what do we know …

pavel.samokha · 14 Oct 2020, 10:48

@lohtse said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

Shutting down a perfectly good service and making people use something not suitable is not what you expect…

Oh, come on, even big and rich companies shutdown services all the time https://killedbygoogle.com/

Prenj · 14 Oct 2020, 11:00

@pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@lohtse said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

Shutting down a perfectly good service and making people use something not suitable is not what you expect…

Oh, come on, even big and rich companies shutdown services all the time https://killedbygoogle.com/

Got any really relevant example like from any other sport watch manufacturer that significantly degraded the service or removed many important features of watches they were selling at the time? I’m struggling to find any beside Suunto.

lohtse · 14 Oct 2020, 11:04

@Prenj said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@lohtse said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

Shutting down a perfectly good service and making people use something not suitable is not what you expect…

Oh, come on, even big and rich companies shutdown services all the time https://killedbygoogle.com/

Got any really relevant example like from any other sport watch manufacturer that significantly degraded the service or removed many important features of watches they were selling at the time? I’m struggling to find any beside Suunto.

Same here… Even garmin don’t downgrade older device’s(friends still uses a forerunner 10 and a forerunner 620 which is FULLY functional) They simply incorporate them in to near platforms…

Suunto have set the bar as to how low they can go…

pavel.samokha · 14 Oct 2020, 11:10

@Prenj https://www.polar.com/en/pptclosed Just dropped support for RC/RCX

lohtse · 14 Oct 2020, 11:14

@pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@Prenj https://www.polar.com/en/pptclosed Just dropped support for RC/RCX

How long had those devices NOT been on sale and how long had the service continued after the last sale of them??? Suspect was not like suunto has done… You know, selling the watches with lots of features even when they have closed the service that supports them.Which then kills alot of features etc

pavel.samokha · 14 Oct 2020, 11:15

@lohtse these devices were actually released later than Ambit1 which is supported by Suunto App.

lohtse · 14 Oct 2020, 11:17

@pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@lohtse these devices were actually released later than Ambit1 which is supported by Suunto App.

BEARLY supported by the app… where as the Movescount system FULLY Supported them…And the difference The Ambit 2 built on the ambit 1 as did the Ambit 3(which is still being sold) build on the Ambit 2. And the platform was built to support them(and others) A platform that I still don’t see why it has to end!!!

Prenj · 14 Oct 2020, 11:18

@pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@Prenj https://www.polar.com/en/pptclosed Just dropped support for RC/RCX

This was their previous web platform, no? And they have a new one? And they stopped selling those product how many years (decades?) ago? No, Suunto is still in the league of their own in this.

lohtse · 14 Oct 2020, 11:19

@Prenj said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@Prenj https://www.polar.com/en/pptclosed Just dropped support for RC/RCX

This was their previous web platform, no? And they have a new one? And they stopped selling those product how many years (decades?) ago? No, Suunto is still in the league of their own in this.

Thats the point am trying to make with @pavel-samokha…

pavel.samokha · 14 Oct 2020, 11:30

@Prenj @lohtse well, you started stating that no company shutdowns their “perfectly working” service and easily proved to be wrong (I tell ya as I was being as fan of Google Reader or Google Play Music as you are of Movescount). That happens with online platforms if we like it or not, companies have their reasons to do that and limited resources. You may nag at every topic about this but nothing a mere customer can do if company has reasons to do shutdown.

lohtse · 14 Oct 2020, 11:33

@pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@Prenj @lohtse well, you started stating that no company shutdowns their “perfectly working” service and easily proved to be wrong (I tell ya as I was being as fan of Google Reader or Google Play Music as you are of Movescount). That happens with online platforms if we like it or not, companies have their reasons to do that and limited resources. You may nag at every topic about this but nothing a mere customer can do if company has reasons to do shutdown.

Google is software based and there are far far more apps out there that are as good as or better than almost all their products so you can always find an alternative yet we have no better alternatives for the watch just a function reduce device with lots of additional services/site/apps we have to sign into got get some of the functions back… Yes you will argue about android phones etc… But google services are not tied in to hardware… where as suunto is a hardware company that sells them with a software platforms as part of the package. Very different