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    cosme.costa @freeheeler
    last edited by 22 Jul 2021, 10:39

    @freeheeler Yeah, the activities were the same day and time, we were running together.

    I’m not complaining, these things happen, and I can imagine is a combination of the technology itself and the watch design (hard and soft)

    Regarding altitude mismatch in loops I tend to believe that this is because we do no let/give time to the GPS/fusialti do its magic, I mean we wait for the green arrow and then we hit start.

    The good thing that my friend uses the same watch is that I can compare both watches and regarding altitude we are always very similar, within 10 m difference of ascent but I aslo can say that rarely we are quite off, then usually we have different altitudes at the starting point.

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      freeheeler @cosme.costa
      last edited by 22 Jul 2021, 15:59

      @cosmecosta
      before I started my “downhill” running activity, I’ve waited around 15mins after the first satellite lock. The reason was, it locked but immediately lost the satellites again. It was a show of around 5min, lock-lost-lock etc… after that I wanted to see that the sats stay locked.

      living sideways

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        zhang965
        last edited by zhang965 25 Jul 2021, 06:59

        sad.JPG

        Pace dropped to 10m/km

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          freeheeler @zhang965
          last edited by freeheeler 25 Jul 2021, 08:36

          @zhang965
          😱
          satellites seem to favour the south-east side of Jardin du Luxembourg

          living sideways

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            zhang965 @freeheeler
            last edited by 25 Jul 2021, 12:21

            @freeheeler said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

            @zhang965
            😱
            satellites seem to favour the south-east side of Jardin du Luxembourg

            I saw 2 black holes which eat my pace (speed dropping),

            sad2.JPG

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              zhang965 @zhang965
              last edited by zhang965 26 Jul 2021, 20:11

              If I run, the number fo satellites reduces, if I walk, the number of satellites seems stable.

              Ruuning: the number of stellites droped to 5
              3k1.JPG

              Walking
              3k2.JPG

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                TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Guest
                last edited by 28 Jul 2021, 13:20

                @andré-faria the new one might help, but mine is becoming brown. Even washing it after every use doesn’t help 😂 😂
                The predecessor at least didn’t change its colours

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                  Tomas5
                  last edited by 28 Jul 2021, 14:24

                  Isn’t there some overall problem with newer suunto watches ? My S5 always takes around 20-40 seconds to get initial GPS fix, even when they was synced with phone just few minutes before. With older Ambit 2 when it was synced for AGPS it was often under 10 seconds to get initial fix. Maybe used sony GPS chip is not so good in non ideal conditions ?

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                    A Former User @Tomas5
                    last edited by 28 Jul 2021, 14:27

                    @tomas5 said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                    Isn’t there some overall problem with newer suunto watches ? My S5 always takes around 20-40 seconds to get initial GPS fix, even when they was synced with phone just few minutes before. With older Ambit 2 when it was synced for AGPS it was often under 10 seconds to get initial fix. Maybe used sony GPS chip is not so good in non ideal conditions ?

                    S9P is super fast for me.

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                      DMytro @Tomas5
                      last edited by 28 Jul 2021, 14:27

                      @tomas5 takes no more than 10s on my s9.

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                        Tomas5 @DMytro
                        last edited by Tomas5 28 Jul 2021, 14:37

                        @dmytro just going from work so i counted today, it was exactly 10s but it was unusually fast today. But anyway even it take usualy 20s or more, after fix it works perfectly fine while on bike.

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                          TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Tomas5
                          last edited by 29 Jul 2021, 05:52

                          @tomas5 my S9B sometimes needs 1+ minute to get a signal. On average around 30sec and this is really annoying. My Girlfriend uses a Forerunner 945 and she gets a GPS signal in 1sec…

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                            A Former User @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                            last edited by 29 Jul 2021, 06:55

                            @theguyfromthesummit said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                            @tomas5 my S9B sometimes needs 1+ minute to get a signal. On average around 30sec and this is really annoying. My Girlfriend uses a Forerunner 945 and she gets a GPS signal in 1sec…

                            have you checked how the tracks looked from one and other before?
                            I had Fenix 6S that would get gps ok much faster than a Forerunner 45, but then the place of start was totally off in the Fenix 6S.

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                              TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Guest
                              last edited by 29 Jul 2021, 07:26

                              @andré-faria boths look fine, sometimes the 945 track is even better than my s9b one.
                              Every 15th track on the same route my S9B looses gps during the run for some time (straight lines on the gpx).

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                                Tomas5 @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                                last edited by 29 Jul 2021, 08:01

                                @theguyfromthesummit i reported openwater swimming problem on this forum few weeks ago, since i noticed that while swimming i need to keep hands out of water for very long time until watch get locations. I hope that if this will get fixed in future, than this initial fix would be faster too. Since I believe that while openwater swimming, it is same issue because it must fix GPS again when watch get out of water.

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                                  TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Tomas5
                                  last edited by TheGuyFromTheSummit 29 Jul 2021, 08:23

                                  @tomas5
                                  in my case, the watch is always connected to gps, but then looses signal for a couple seconds

                                  But as long as it only occurs from time to time, I am ok with it.

                                  Here you see the a 1 month window and the lost signal track

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                                    Tomas5 @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                                    last edited by 29 Jul 2021, 10:10

                                    @theguyfromthesummit i had initially some problem with GPS on S5 because while hiking in hard conditions (narrow valleys), usually during longer stops, GPS position jumped arround and recorded lot of distance while not moving. After i started use galileo + GPS it resolved partly this issue and i learned to manually pause hiking when i stop for while which helped a lot too 🙂

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                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Tomas5
                                      last edited by Brad_Olwin 29 Jul 2021, 16:34

                                      @tomas5 said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                                      Isn’t there some overall problem with newer suunto watches ? My S5 always takes around 20-40 seconds to get initial GPS fix, even when they was synced with phone just few minutes before. With older Ambit 2 when it was synced for AGPS it was often under 10 seconds to get initial fix. Maybe used sony GPS chip is not so good in non ideal conditions ?

                                      @Tomas5 @TheGuyFromTheSummit Do not sync immediately prior to an exercise, it takes time to unpack the ephemeris data for the satellites, maybe 10 min or so. If your AGPS file is 5d old or less it will be fine and your watch should have a solid green icon within seconds.

                                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                        Tomas5 @Brad_Olwin
                                        last edited by Tomas5 29 Jul 2021, 17:19

                                        @brad_olwin well in ideal conditions maybe on open area. When i stick my hand out of balcony, right now it took 39seconds for icon to turn green (synced around 8h ago) Ambit 2S (synced 4days ago) did it in 14seconds in exact same conditions right now. From the balcony i have view on south west and there are no other building, trees hills so at least half o sky is visible directly. Only NorthEast is blocked by building itself. So not ideal conditions but not either worst.

                                        Edited: just opened user manual, it says first gps fix can take 30seconds or longer based on coditions. So it is as designed.

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                                          zhang965 @Tomas5
                                          last edited by 29 Jul 2021, 19:50

                                          @tomas5 said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                                          Ambit 2S

                                          the Ambit 2’s gps chipset is from SIRF which is more powerful than Sony’s, the good side of Sony chipset is the power saving.

                                          With SIRF’s chipset (Spartan Ultra), I can connect the GPS even in my apartment/a building, with Sony’s chipset is a big NONO.

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