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  • Z Offline
    zhang965
    last edited by 19 Jul 2021, 14:44

    it’s what i noticed recently:

    the GPS reception is not stable.

    When I run with a given pace (4;11 m/km), during a section, the pace is dropped suddenly a lot(5;30m/km), but I will get a speed compensation after this section (3;20m/km), if I understand, it’s my S9B recalculate the distance.

    normally, the recalculation is OK, it will not lost so much distance on a straight section.

    But if I run faster during the section curved where the pace dropped, I’ll lost the distance, as the recalculation of distance is based on two positions. you can see in my screenshots, it looks like a shortcut.

    p1.JPG p2.JPG p3.JPG

    My questions about this problem;

    How my GPS reception can be lost during a such long distance (during 300m )? It supposed to be logged every 1s?

    How can I check the GPS logging period? How can I check where the GPS reception lost or why it’s lost?

    There is the GPS track difference between 2019 2020 2021 in the same place, same configuration
    img_20200807_113305.jpg
    img_20200807_113251.jpg
    2021.JPG

    Why the GPS reception is getting worse over time?

    Thanks

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    D 1 Reply Last reply 19 Jul 2021, 16:23 Reply Quote 1
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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zhang965
      last edited by 19 Jul 2021, 16:23

      @zhang965 good question. Different times and different available sat?

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        zhang965 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by 19 Jul 2021, 16:31

        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

        @zhang965 good question. Different times and different available sat?

        Almost the same time
        2019 at 6:23
        2020 6;47
        2021 7:06

        It looks I’m getting lazy over years

        What is Available Sat?

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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zhang965
          last edited by 19 Jul 2021, 17:24

          @zhang965 available satellites over your heat.

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            zhang965 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
            last edited by 19 Jul 2021, 18:45

            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

            @zhang965 available satellites over your heat.

            I don’t know, so far, the only thing I can tell, they follow the same steps,

            I wear the HR blet, I walk about 30m (so the watch has 30m to connect to GPS) to the park before start the run,

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              darxmurf Platinum Member
              last edited by 20 Jul 2021, 06:25

              Hi all,

              Just bringing a quick answer here. On my side, the GPS is wrong almost all the time. On the map I’m always going “through” building or in the lake, on the railways. Ok I’m often starting my run from town, with buildings around but we don’t have skyscrapers here and I’m always waiting the watch is ready before starting. My 9 Baro is configured with GPS+Glonass.

              I would say I know where I’m running and there is no need for me to re-check the map after but there is a serious lack or precision here 😕

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                Richard Thygesen @darxmurf
                last edited by 20 Jul 2021, 08:22

                @darxmurf perhaps not related but my track is always wrong on the graphic map but fairly good on the real satellite map. But it had almost more or less been wrong. The last days it has been better and the only thing I changed is that I use a Polar H9 instead of a Polar OH1.

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                  Mister PYC Silver Members @Richard Thygesen
                  last edited by 20 Jul 2021, 09:07

                  MaTondeuse.png

                  The SUNTO 9/Baro GPS is not so bad …

                  For the fun of it, I created a personalized “Motorsport” mooing the lawn view for when I’m cutting my garden grass …
                  I was impressed by the result (not the garden 🙂 … but the capture of information …
                  It is not a 400 m stadium … still I’m almost able to see that I went everywhere … just one time I entered in the house with the mower 🙂 🙂 🙂

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                    zhang965 @Mister PYC
                    last edited by 21 Jul 2021, 15:50

                    @mister-pyc said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                    MaTondeuse.png

                    The SUNTO 9/Baro GPS is not so bad …

                    For the fun of it, I created a personalized “Motorsport” mooing the lawn view for when I’m cutting my garden grass …
                    I was impressed by the result (not the garden 🙂 … but the capture of information …
                    It is not a 400 m stadium … still I’m almost able to see that I went everywhere … just one time I entered in the house with the mower 🙂 🙂 🙂

                    I don’t get you, do you understand what we discussed?

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                      freeheeler @zhang965
                      last edited by 21 Jul 2021, 16:25

                      @zhang965 said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                      It looks I’m getting lazy over years

                      it looks like you need even more sleep now 😉
                      the track from 2019 is better than the one from 2021 even with GPS improvement updates 🤔
                      I don’t really have something to compare like you do, because I do sports infrequently. Hence no comparison over years for the same tracks at the same time… but what I do notice is that during an activity the GPS precision sometimes is better and sometimes worse but independently from the tree coverage and without steep hills near me. I don’t see a pattern

                      living sideways

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                        cosme.costa
                        last edited by cosme.costa 22 Jul 2021, 09:15

                        I think that also depends on the device, even being the same model, how it is worn and activity speed.

                        Here two examples, the nice track is from my running partner. He was using an S9B Ti and I the regular S9B. He wears the the watch on the right arm and I on the left. The hill was around 400 m long with 100 m ascent, and he is much faster than me doing downhills and a little bit faster than me in the uphills.

                        Screenshot_20210722-110419.png

                        Screenshot_20210722-110525.png

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                          freeheeler @cosme.costa
                          last edited by freeheeler 22 Jul 2021, 09:25

                          @cosmecosta
                          and the activities were on the same time and day?
                          at least the alti graph looks alright… but something seems to be always going on… either track or alti 😂
                          I went downhill running today at sealevel, a loop starting and ending on our campsite 😉
                          Screenshot_20210722-112636.png

                          living sideways

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                            cosme.costa @freeheeler
                            last edited by 22 Jul 2021, 10:39

                            @freeheeler Yeah, the activities were the same day and time, we were running together.

                            I’m not complaining, these things happen, and I can imagine is a combination of the technology itself and the watch design (hard and soft)

                            Regarding altitude mismatch in loops I tend to believe that this is because we do no let/give time to the GPS/fusialti do its magic, I mean we wait for the green arrow and then we hit start.

                            The good thing that my friend uses the same watch is that I can compare both watches and regarding altitude we are always very similar, within 10 m difference of ascent but I aslo can say that rarely we are quite off, then usually we have different altitudes at the starting point.

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                              freeheeler @cosme.costa
                              last edited by 22 Jul 2021, 15:59

                              @cosmecosta
                              before I started my “downhill” running activity, I’ve waited around 15mins after the first satellite lock. The reason was, it locked but immediately lost the satellites again. It was a show of around 5min, lock-lost-lock etc… after that I wanted to see that the sats stay locked.

                              living sideways

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                                zhang965
                                last edited by zhang965 25 Jul 2021, 06:59

                                sad.JPG

                                Pace dropped to 10m/km

                                Screenshot_20210725-090210.png

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                                F 1 Reply Last reply 25 Jul 2021, 08:36 Reply Quote 0
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                                  freeheeler @zhang965
                                  last edited by freeheeler 25 Jul 2021, 08:36

                                  @zhang965
                                  😱
                                  satellites seem to favour the south-east side of Jardin du Luxembourg

                                  living sideways

                                  Z 1 Reply Last reply 25 Jul 2021, 12:21 Reply Quote 0
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                                    zhang965 @freeheeler
                                    last edited by 25 Jul 2021, 12:21

                                    @freeheeler said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                                    @zhang965
                                    😱
                                    satellites seem to favour the south-east side of Jardin du Luxembourg

                                    I saw 2 black holes which eat my pace (speed dropping),

                                    sad2.JPG

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                                    Z 1 Reply Last reply 26 Jul 2021, 20:11 Reply Quote 1
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                                      zhang965 @zhang965
                                      last edited by zhang965 26 Jul 2021, 20:11

                                      If I run, the number fo satellites reduces, if I walk, the number of satellites seems stable.

                                      Ruuning: the number of stellites droped to 5
                                      3k1.JPG

                                      Walking
                                      3k2.JPG

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                                        TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Guest
                                        last edited by 28 Jul 2021, 13:20

                                        @andré-faria the new one might help, but mine is becoming brown. Even washing it after every use doesn’t help 😂 😂
                                        The predecessor at least didn’t change its colours

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                                          Tomas5
                                          last edited by 28 Jul 2021, 14:24

                                          Isn’t there some overall problem with newer suunto watches ? My S5 always takes around 20-40 seconds to get initial GPS fix, even when they was synced with phone just few minutes before. With older Ambit 2 when it was synced for AGPS it was often under 10 seconds to get initial fix. Maybe used sony GPS chip is not so good in non ideal conditions ?

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