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    Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans

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    • Nigel Taylor 0N Offline
      Nigel Taylor 0 Bronze Member @olymay
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      @olymay With the new update (which I haven’t tried yet, or indeed tried anything - given my S7 only arrived today! but I have read a lot over the last few weeks!!)…you potentially could use POI’s for some types of structured workout?

      Create a route, and set Waypoints after certain distances with reminder labels on them for what you’re doing next?

      So for example I might plan a 10mile route, and tag a certain point where there’s a nice little 200metre loop of road that I like to do intervals on…I can just throw a waypoint just before the start of that to remind me I need to do 5x100metre strides or whatever…and then I’ll just manual lap press at the start and end of the 100metre (I know the distance from lampposts), recover on the loop back and go again.

      Likewise you might just have a structure which is recovery/warmup zone for x distance, easy/fatburning zone for y distance, and approaching marathon race zone for z distance…just set up a POI on a route at x, y & z to remind you what heart rate you are supposed to be driving next??

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        Jamie BG Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Are you saying the S7 suunto app is a completely different app from the one that runs on the S5 / S9 and isn’t just an adjusted app that has been ported across to work on wear os.

        As personally I would think that Suunto had gone the port route, and I suspect most others assume the same. If this is what you think and is the case, then when you compare the options of the 3 watches it does feel like certain features have been ommitted that we may feel should have been kept.

        Of course if this app is a complete build from scratch, that might help explain why some of those features where ommitted.

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          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Jamie BG
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          @Jamie-BG My understanding was development was from scratch. WearOS is completely different and Suunto spent considerable time optimizing the battery life. I’ve concluded this from reading about the release and some interviews. One would have to agree that for a WearOS watch, sports battery life was essential. Given that I think it likely a completely new development effort, I am amazed at how similar the entire experience is.

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            Aleksander H Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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            @Brad_Olwin said in Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans:

            Given that I think it likely a completely new development effort, I am amazed at how similar the entire experience is.

            That’s my impression as well. I’m impressed by the app given this was likely done from scratch. The interface looks great and feels like it’s made by people who understand workout watches. The fact that it’s a Wear OS app also gives me hope that it will be (relatively) easy to keep bringing new features to the S7, even after it gets replaced by a new model, as they will hopefully simply be running the same app.

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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              S7 to S9/5 etc is 100% different. Starting with the programming language used.

              There might be common parts ie some logic etc that are empirical etc

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                Aleksander H Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans:

                S7 to S9/5 etc is 100% different. Starting with the programming language used.

                There might be common parts ie some logic etc that are empirical etc

                Purely out of interest, if you are permitted to share. What programming languages are used on the S5/S9?

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Aleksander H
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                  @Aleksander-H from what I have “fished” is basically C++/Assembly . ITs completely a Suunto thing.

                  But I am not sure about the UI etc. That I have no clue. Could be anything from xml/html to QT but I would doubt about QT.

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                    Jamie BG Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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                    @Brad_Olwin - and I think this is partially what causes a lot of the confusion when comparing to the rest of the S range - it has same look, the app looks similar; in fact everthing pretty much says its the same line; so users of the other models expect similar functionality.
                    Suunto may have been better off giving it another designator to point out it really isn’t part of the same line.

                    Saying that I still think they should provide the missing pieces - simply from a strategic market perspective and the opportunity to differentiate themselves and own that growing market share. I could understand if this was a cheaper product where that investment may not make sense, but when viewing the market share/competing models this is a premium product, a differentiator and would benefit covering the gaps that are missing compared to competitor models.

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                      Aleksander H Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans:

                      @Aleksander-H from what I have “fished” is basically C++/Assembly . ITs completely a Suunto thing.

                      But I am not sure about the UI etc. That I have no clue. Could be anything from xml/html to QT but I would doubt about QT.

                      Do you happen to know if the dev team find development on Wear OS to be easier than on platforms such as S5/S9, or merely different?

                      Sorry. This is the last non-topic related question I’ll ask here 😆

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                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Aleksander H
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                        @Aleksander-H I would bet its easier on wearOS when you are building something new.

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                          there once was a success story online from a small company which presented their coding base was being used in Suunto Spartan.
                          It has now disappeared from their website - and I can’t find it right now. maybe someone still remembers?

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                            @sartoric
                            this link doesn’t directly answer the question from @Ricardo-Rodríguez … it is an old thread and since then Suunto has made progress in the interval section.
                            it is not very obvious to everyone what models are compatible with Suunto Plus Guides.
                            I don’t have an S7 anymore, but if I get it right, Suunto Plus Guides and Features are only available for S3, 5 and 9.
                            Hence: in my understanding it is not possible to setup interval training as we see it in other Suunto models.
                            However @Brad_Olwin suggested to look for 3rd party apps, maybe this helps @Ricardo-Rodríguez ?

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                              sartoric Moderator @freeheeler
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                              @freeheeler said in Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans:

                              However @Brad_Olwin suggested to look for 3rd party apps, maybe this helps @Ricardo-Rodríguez ?

                              That’s the main answer, for S7, imho

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                                S7 owners are probably as screwed as Spartans and previous generations. Don’t expect anything from Suunto.

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                                  @jsuarez said in Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans:

                                  S7 owners are probably as screwed as Spartans and previous generations. Don’t expect anything from Suunto.

                                  Well, I don’t feel screwed, maybe unlucky because of the old hardware, but not screwed.
                                  I just miss the good’ol planner, that I still hope in it’s comeback 🙂

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                                  • Ricardo RodríguezR Offline
                                    Ricardo Rodríguez @freeheeler
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                                    @freeheeler said in Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans:

                                    Suunto Plus Guides

                                    Thanks, @freeheeler. When I try to set up structured work, I received a brief pop up message saying “watch is not compatible”: Suunto is informing me, but perhaps they can be a bit clearer.

                                    Please, what I should expect when I select Running Interval mode available in my watch?

                                    Thanks!

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                                      @Ricardo-Rodríguez said in Suunto 7 - Interval training and/or training plans:

                                      Please, what I should expect when I select Running Interval mode available in my watch?

                                      what do you mean? the question is not clear to me.
                                      does SA say you can select intervals for the watch?

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                                        Ricardo Rodríguez @Brad_Olwin
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                                        @Brad_Olwin, please, have you succeeded to find a third party application to manage interval training with your S7? Thanks!

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