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    Suunto 9 baro very low elevation gain vs other brands

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    • freeheelerF Offline
      freeheeler
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      I went backcountry skiing with my friend who has well deserved and honourable inherited my A3PS. Of course the watches were not on the same arm, hence a comparison with the slightest scientific touch isn’t possible. However I would like to mention here that we went in the exactly same ascent track and his A3PS recorded around 100m less total ascent plus had issues with the track on the first few meters.

      My takeaway is that S9B is not inaccurate at all.
      Plus: it’s crazy good to enjoy sports without having issues like these in mind 🙂 life is easier when we don’t worry

      living sideways

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      • OktanO Offline
        Oktan @freeheeler
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        @TELE-HO Can it be that his jacket blocked the barometer hole for a small period of time, and yours didnt?

        Suunto 9 Baro Titanium & Ambit 3 Peak

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        • freeheelerF Offline
          freeheeler @Oktan
          last edited by

          @Oktan
          no, not on A3PS and also not possible when I check the graph

          living sideways

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          • stromdiddilyS Offline
            stromdiddily Gold Members
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            Interesting one for me today…S9 more than doubled the ascent/descent on my route. Green graph is a lot more jagged than the typical results.

            Pouring down rain today but it was constant the whole time.

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            Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

            User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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              fazel Bronze Member @stromdiddily
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              @stromdiddily so light green is today, dark green is a track from the same route ran in the past? I see this sort of delay with FusedAlti, @Brad_Olwin has as well.

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              • stromdiddilyS Offline
                stromdiddily Gold Members @fazel
                last edited by stromdiddily

                @fazel green is today, yellow-ish is from three months ago on the same 7 mile route. The start looks ok tbh but the green is reporting over 1k feet of climbing and the yellow is correctly showing 500ish feet.

                Edit - QS feature request, ability to assign colors to merged tracks 😄

                Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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                • freeheelerF Offline
                  freeheeler @stromdiddily
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                  @stromdiddily
                  the spike-ish graph looks like hydraulics did magic on the sensor… it’s a wild guess, but possible

                  living sideways

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                  • fazelF Offline
                    fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
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                    @TELE-HO hydraulics = water?

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                    • freeheelerF Offline
                      freeheeler @fazel
                      last edited by

                      @fazel
                      my assumption… pouring rain and the baro holes right next to the wrist… it seals great and the movement could create pressure that causes a down spike. once relieved it shows an up spike.
                      for our luck the recording is not set to every second as it was possible with Ambits, hence it’s somehow equalling out a bit… or let’s say it would be worse

                      living sideways

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                      • Fenr1rF Offline
                        Fenr1r @freeheeler
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                        @TELE-HO Sleeve pump effect?

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                          stromdiddily Gold Members @Fenr1r
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                          @Fenr1r That’s how I normally wear it, but you’re probably right 🤷

                          Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                          User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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                          • Fenr1rF Offline
                            Fenr1r @stromdiddily
                            last edited by

                            @stromdiddily said in Suunto 9 baro very low elevation gain vs other brands:

                            That’s how I normally wear it

                            But you don’t normally get this distorted result in the same conditions?

                            Unless you’ve changed jacket materials or the rain on that run was unusually chubby, my beautiful theory has probably been slain by ugly fact. I’d like to be at least plausible but some other variable(s) must be at work.

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                              stromdiddily Gold Members @Fenr1r
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                              @Fenr1r new shake dry jacket (is quite nice actually lol)

                              Honestly it’s a one off, so not too concerned about it. I just thought it was interesting as I expected to see a super human type jump but instead saw fairly reasonable up/downs on the graph.

                              Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                              User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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                              • Fenr1rF Offline
                                Fenr1r @stromdiddily
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                                @stromdiddily Hmm.

                                Maybe less chubby rain, more beady jacket. Anyway, you’re right: add it to the PNW’s supply of post-X-Files/Twin Peaks Things Of Interest.

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                                • freeheelerF Offline
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                                  I don’t believe that S9B has very low elevation gain… I went from about 730m to about 1’250m and the total ascent is 721m. Ok there were small dips, very very small dips. But not to a sum of 200m.
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                                  living sideways

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                                  • fazelF Offline
                                    fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
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                                    @freeheeler what type of activity was this?

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                                    • OktanO Offline
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                                      @freeheeler not sure its a good example because you went up once and went down once. in hilly routes (many ups & downs like all my routes are) I see the differences. I guess each up I loose some elevation gain.

                                      Suunto 9 Baro Titanium & Ambit 3 Peak

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                                      • freeheelerF Offline
                                        freeheeler @Oktan
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                                        @Oktan
                                        actually it is a bad example as there’s nothing easier than one consecutive ascent 😉

                                        @fazel
                                        it was ski touring

                                        living sideways

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                                        • fazelF Offline
                                          fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
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                                          @freeheeler thanks. I was wondering if the hand motions were different (I assume they are) and that might have caused some discrepancy? It sounds like the accelerometer data is considered along with the barometer measurements when calculating accent. Others will know more.

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                                          • freeheelerF Offline
                                            freeheeler @fazel
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                                            @fazel
                                            it could be possible that I’ve had a similar “setup” like @stromdiddily had recently during his run. Lot of wet stuff and the sensor holes just on top of the jackets cuff.
                                            When zooming in the graph I can see tiny spikes… maybe I should entertain myself tonight and count all the irregular deltas 😉
                                            The last couple of ski tours gave a more reasonable result. I’m not sure if it’s this. But what I actually wanted to point out is that I have the impression that S9B is not calculating way to low.

                                            living sideways

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