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    Suunto 9 baro very low elevation gain vs other brands

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    • fazelF Offline
      fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
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      @TELE-HO hydraulics = water?

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        freeheeler @fazel
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        @fazel
        my assumption… pouring rain and the baro holes right next to the wrist… it seals great and the movement could create pressure that causes a down spike. once relieved it shows an up spike.
        for our luck the recording is not set to every second as it was possible with Ambits, hence it’s somehow equalling out a bit… or let’s say it would be worse

        living sideways

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          Fenr1r @freeheeler
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          @TELE-HO Sleeve pump effect?

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            stromdiddily Gold Members @Fenr1r
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            @Fenr1r That’s how I normally wear it, but you’re probably right 🤷

            Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

            User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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              Fenr1r @stromdiddily
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              @stromdiddily said in Suunto 9 baro very low elevation gain vs other brands:

              That’s how I normally wear it

              But you don’t normally get this distorted result in the same conditions?

              Unless you’ve changed jacket materials or the rain on that run was unusually chubby, my beautiful theory has probably been slain by ugly fact. I’d like to be at least plausible but some other variable(s) must be at work.

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                stromdiddily Gold Members @Fenr1r
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                @Fenr1r new shake dry jacket (is quite nice actually lol)

                Honestly it’s a one off, so not too concerned about it. I just thought it was interesting as I expected to see a super human type jump but instead saw fairly reasonable up/downs on the graph.

                Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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                  Fenr1r @stromdiddily
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                  @stromdiddily Hmm.

                  Maybe less chubby rain, more beady jacket. Anyway, you’re right: add it to the PNW’s supply of post-X-Files/Twin Peaks Things Of Interest.

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                    freeheeler
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                    I don’t believe that S9B has very low elevation gain… I went from about 730m to about 1’250m and the total ascent is 721m. Ok there were small dips, very very small dips. But not to a sum of 200m.
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                    living sideways

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                      fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
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                      @freeheeler what type of activity was this?

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                        Oktan @freeheeler
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                        @freeheeler not sure its a good example because you went up once and went down once. in hilly routes (many ups & downs like all my routes are) I see the differences. I guess each up I loose some elevation gain.

                        Suunto 9 Baro Titanium & Ambit 3 Peak

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                          freeheeler @Oktan
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                          @Oktan
                          actually it is a bad example as there’s nothing easier than one consecutive ascent 😉

                          @fazel
                          it was ski touring

                          living sideways

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                            fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
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                            @freeheeler thanks. I was wondering if the hand motions were different (I assume they are) and that might have caused some discrepancy? It sounds like the accelerometer data is considered along with the barometer measurements when calculating accent. Others will know more.

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                              freeheeler @fazel
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                              @fazel
                              it could be possible that I’ve had a similar “setup” like @stromdiddily had recently during his run. Lot of wet stuff and the sensor holes just on top of the jackets cuff.
                              When zooming in the graph I can see tiny spikes… maybe I should entertain myself tonight and count all the irregular deltas 😉
                              The last couple of ski tours gave a more reasonable result. I’m not sure if it’s this. But what I actually wanted to point out is that I have the impression that S9B is not calculating way to low.

                              living sideways

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                                freeheeler @fazel
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                                @fazel
                                this graph is from a hike with poles. Hence similar movement like ski touring. When I zoom in the graph is impressively less noisy. It was a dry and sunny day. I assume that raindrops and hence molten snowflakes in combo with a garment can influence the recording.
                                I did not check the total ascent as this activity has more ups and downs plus a bike ride at the beginning and the end (and a pause for getting wet shirt changed). But just the fact that the graph has less noise is interesting, at least for me 🙂
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                                  fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
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                                  @freeheeler yes - your analysis seems good.

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                                    isazi Moderator
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                                    Today I experienced something similar to @freeheeler. I went running outside and it was snowing (first snow in a long while in Amsterdam!), and got 47/49 (ascent/descent) on a route where I usually get ~10 meters. Corrected elevation seems something like 12/13 (I did play a little bit with Runalyze).

                                    The common pattern seems to be rain/snow. First time this happen to me.

                                    Also, when I got home the altitude on the watch kept changing rapidly (-3 when I stopped the exercise, 0 when I arrived home, then -2 a minute later, +2 next time I checked, and so on).

                                    Currently the watch is taking a warm bath to calm down 🙂

                                    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                                      @isazi said in Suunto 9 baro very low elevation gain vs other brands:

                                      the watch is taking a warm bath

                                      you have to treat nicely what you love 😀

                                      living sideways

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                                        Hi again,
                                        Sorry, but I’m still annoyed by this issue.
                                        Both S9B and A3P on handle bar, recorded exactly the same ride: S9B recorded 539m elevation gain and A3P recorded 641m.
                                        How could it be?

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                                        Suunto 9 Baro Titanium & Ambit 3 Peak

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                                          @oktan said in Suunto 9 baro very low elevation gain vs other brands:

                                          Hi again,
                                          Sorry, but I’m still annoyed by this issue.
                                          Both S9B and A3P on handle bar, recorded exactly the same ride: S9B recorded 539m elevation gain and A3P recorded 641m.
                                          How could it be?

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                                          both calibrated at the begining of the activity?

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                                            Oktan @Guest
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                                            @andré-faria Yes.

                                            Suunto 9 Baro Titanium & Ambit 3 Peak

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