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Number of downhill runs in alpine skiing

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    MdzOtt @freeheeler
    last edited by 4 Mar 2021, 05:28

    @freeheeler - the number of runs is just a number, agreed, who cares. But the Total Descent should be accurate, but it isn’t. Any ideas?

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      MdzOtt @Egika
      last edited by 4 Mar 2021, 05:56

      @egika this was a very simple day on a local hill - multiple runs on a single chair. It should be reasonably easy to figure out how many runs.
      I noticed in SA that there were numerous tiny runs (a couple of metres), probably when moving through the line to the lift.
      I would gladly share the file. Let me know what you would like to see (and how to upload it).

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        Bulkan Moderator @MdzOtt
        last edited by Bulkan 3 Apr 2021, 08:58 4 Mar 2021, 08:55

        @MdzOtt I don’t sky, here there is no snow but @Brad_Olwin does although he is more into skimo. Maybe he knows.

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          nseslija Bronze Member @MdzOtt
          last edited by 4 Mar 2021, 09:18

          @mdzott as far as I know, I am using s9 baro, when you start to descent the watch start the interval, and the interval is finished when you start to ascent.
          If you have small descents and ascents the watch will record that as ski runs.
          Alpine skiing sport mode syncing problem with iOS is another problem, still unsolved unfortunately.

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            freeheeler @nseslija
            last edited by freeheeler 3 Apr 2021, 12:32 4 Mar 2021, 12:30

            @nseslija
            I did a small test recently and could not see a reasonable pattern… I did one decent without any bigger climbs that S9B with its 3m threshold would recognize and it showed 3 runs.
            The theory that a longer pause might not be right either as I did a lot of quite similar pauses to get the fire out of my legs

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              Mff73 @freeheeler
              last edited by 4 Mar 2021, 13:18

              @freeheeler
              do you see that in QS, there seems only to be 2 laps (descents) vs 3 in the SA ?
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                freeheeler @Mff73
                last edited by 4 Mar 2021, 14:29

                @mff73
                and the sum is not the total duration

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                  nseslija Bronze Member @freeheeler
                  last edited by 4 Mar 2021, 15:56

                  @freeheeler I only see one descent there… I must say that I didn’t experience such a behavior with the watch… Did you feel vibration when the watch started a new interval during your descent?
                  I can feel the vibration almost every time, and it is when I start to descent, and when the ascent starts on the chairlift.

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                    freeheeler @nseslija
                    last edited by 4 Mar 2021, 17:05

                    @nseslija
                    I rarely feel it. It’s only when I pay attention when I enter or leave the chairlift station. I never notice the unwanted descent count vibration

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                      MdzOtt @MdzOtt
                      last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 22:03

                      @mdzott here is the link to the activity: https://www.suunto.com/move/marekdziedzic/6037d336cdd3874e077c7966

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                        MdzOtt @MdzOtt
                        last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 22:06

                        @mdzott In the activity i just posted, the total descent is ~3800 m, whereas, when you count the runs, it should be around ~2500 m.

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                          freeheeler @MdzOtt
                          last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 22:08

                          @mdzott
                          I see 2’868m descent… it’s about alright.
                          but 62 runs… hmmm…

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                            MdzOtt @freeheeler
                            last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 22:17

                            @freeheeler when i looked at the SA, there were multiple runs of 2 m, 3 m etc. It seems that it counted every single step i took waiting in line to the chair.

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                              freeheeler @MdzOtt
                              last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 22:18

                              @mdzott
                              possible, not good and not logic with the threshold… but only the dev teams knows 🙄

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                                MdzOtt @freeheeler
                                last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 22:21

                                @freeheeler when you look at the move on the web site, it shows only 0.5 km laps. On the SA it shows “downhills” - I assume runs. The first few are fine, then it starts showing 0 m length, 5 m descent for 5-6 “runs” and then a longer one. Somehow the logic has failed the watch.

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                                  freeheeler @MdzOtt
                                  last edited by freeheeler 3 Dec 2021, 22:25 12 Mar 2021, 22:24

                                  @mdzott
                                  did you use the famouse lock button?

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                                    MdzOtt @freeheeler
                                    last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 22:29

                                    @freeheeler I did. I have to under the jacket. What am i missing here?

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                                      freeheeler @MdzOtt
                                      last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 22:31

                                      @mdzott
                                      nothing… I have the impression the ski mode simply does not work properly

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                                        MdzOtt @freeheeler
                                        last edited by 14 Mar 2021, 19:06

                                        @freeheeler The development team could use the code that is available for Ambit 3 (and 2), as “Downhill Counter, Max speed, Distance”. It works like a charm. And the code is almost trivially simple.

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                                          freeheeler @MdzOtt
                                          last edited by 14 Mar 2021, 21:09

                                          @mdzott
                                          for us developers it is more entertaining to re-invent the wheel 😉

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