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    helgonet12
    last edited by 11 Mar 2021, 09:43

    Hi!
    I have a question regarding the resources on my S9B with the latest firmware. The resource is as far I can see ok when I wake up (06:47) like on the picture 94%.
    Around 07:45 I take my dog for a slow, calm walk for about 20 -30 minutes and the resource drops down to ca 55% This huge drops only happens when I record the activity with walk and only in the morning.

    If I take another dog walk the same day for lunch and in the evening the huge drop in resources will not appear as it didi in the morning. Even if I record the activity. If I do not record the walk then I think the drop is working as it should.

    So the drops happens only in the mornings and only when I use the record the walk activity. Does this happen to you as well?

    I have set my resting and max heart rate according to my age and fitness level. So it should be ok. I have followed this for a couple of weeks now and it it the same behaviour for all recorded activities. It is the same huge drop in the watch as it is in SA. (latest beta version) Any idea what might be the problem? Thanks.
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      zadow @helgonet12
      last edited by 11 Mar 2021, 11:41

      @helgonet12 I am absolutely with you. Noticed the same. I created an activity to measure my morning HR. I started it right after I woke up, just for 5 minutes. Still lying on the bed and not moving at all. After these 5 minutes long activity of doing just nothing, my resources drops from 100% to 30%. Pretty strange, isn’t it?

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zadow
        last edited by 11 Mar 2021, 13:02

        One used walking

        The other @zadow?

        I might remember something similar. Could you just for my sanity use indoor running or running to see if the same happens?

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          zadow @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by 11 Mar 2021, 13:28

          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos I created a custom activity view from “Other6” sport mode with duration and average HR field only. Nothing else.

          I also tried “Yoga” sport mode. Same effect. It caused very high resource drop when used very early in the morning, in fact, right after wake up.

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            zadow @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
            last edited by 11 Mar 2021, 13:32

            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Ah sorry, regarding running… hm… good question, now when I am looking back at my early bird runs, it seems like the drop in resources after morning runs is reasonable… it could point to issue for morning activities without GPS? Just a guess…

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zadow
              last edited by 11 Mar 2021, 13:40

              @zadow the thing is if I recall correctly that some activities like yoga are considered “daily” for the firstbeat thingy.

              So a little spike on HR or bad HR can ruin the stress.

              I am creating a bug anyways for you guys. I can confirm it also affects me with some sport modes like yoga.

              Lets try tomorrow some other sport mode and report back here

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                helgonet12 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                last edited by 11 Mar 2021, 14:17

                @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Hi I´ll try indoor running tomorrow and running the day after. For info I always use external heart rate on these walks. I did not in the beginning and thought that the drop was due to HR spikes created from the watch therefor I started to monitor this and it was the same with external HR. I´ll get back with info tomorrow

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @helgonet12
                  last edited by 11 Mar 2021, 14:22

                  @helgonet12 thanks

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                    zadow @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                    last edited by 11 Mar 2021, 17:01

                    @dimitrios-kanellopoulos I scrolled back in time thru my activities and found out that “Stretching” was also causing morning high resource drop .

                    (Before I created activity to measure morning HRrest from “Other6” I was using “Stretching”)
                    So it may be the same “day only” activity as Yoga, as you explained…

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                      ChrisA Platinum Member @helgonet12
                      last edited by 11 Mar 2021, 17:39

                      @helgonet12 I had this too, see my post some months ago:

                      https://forum.suunto.com/topic/5045/resources-drop-from-90-to-0

                      Cheers Christian

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                        SnusR
                        last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 07:00

                        good morning guys.

                        What i also noticed is that if you do a reset on the watch (press upper button for x seconds) the ressource is automatically set to 50% after “reboot”.

                        is this the expected behavior?

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @SnusR
                          last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 07:04

                          @snusr yes. That is expected as it looses it inner state. They will come up or down to their level shortly after.

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                            helgonet12 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                            last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 11:48

                            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Hi! I used running app instead of walk and it did not have the same drop as before. I was out walking later today since I had to go to work earlier so I will try again tomorrow.

                            I looked for indoor running but could not find it? do you mean treadmill? I have looked twice for indoor running but it is not there.

                            There is also some wired behaviour when scrolling down the sports modes using the button down. after a while it start to scroll down buy it self really fast until it hits the last sportmode. It does not happen if using touch. I tried this I a couple of times and it was the same every time.
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                              helgonet12 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by 15 Mar 2021, 07:46

                              @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Hi! I have during the weekend tried different activities like running, hiking and walking but it is the same on all. Hiking had the big drop as walking. The strange thing tough is that when I used running instead go walking this Saturday the resources worked fine. but today I used running instead of walking and I got the same big drop as walking (see picture) Skärmavbild 2021-03-15 kl. 08.40.23.png

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                              • isaziI Offline
                                isazi Moderator
                                last edited by isazi 24 Mar 2021, 16:27

                                Just noticed the behavior this week because I decided to record my commute to work. Same huge drop in resources (today from more than 80 to 20) after a mellow 30 minutes bike ride.

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                                  helgonet12 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by 1 Apr 2021, 08:46

                                  @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Hi! Tested the walk activity today and same behaviour (big drop) happens on the new firmware 2.14.12.

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @helgonet12
                                    last edited by 1 Apr 2021, 08:48

                                    @helgonet12 yes this was not fixed in this FW. Walking will produce the same issue if there are HR inconsistencies.

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                                      helgonet12 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                      last edited by 1 Apr 2021, 08:56

                                      @dimitrios-kanellopoulos ok. I thought so. Just wanted you to know 😀. Hoping it will come with the next update. Happy Easter 🐣 to you and everyone else in the forum.

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                                        helgonet12 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                        last edited by 12 Apr 2023, 10:16

                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Hi. Any news about the fix for recourse drop on the S9B? It’s been a while since the first report of the issue. I know it is not the most important issue but still it should have been fixed I think during this time. Thanks.

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                                          last edited by 12 Apr 2023, 19:55

                                          I think I had the same ‚feature‘ with my S9PP same days ago… I started ‚Trailrunning‘ for a short time in the morning when I walked on the parking area in front of my work… I wanted to calibrate the altitude… about 30 second and a lost of resources from about 70% to 30%… I nearly couldn‘t stop laughing…

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