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No Vo2max since update 2.14.12

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  • I Offline
    isazi Moderator
    last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 08:07

    This should be fixed in 2.16.26 (it has been for me for a while at least).

    If any of you still has problems, please let me know.

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      EzioAuditore Gold Members @isazi
      last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 08:39

      @isazi Thank m8. I found a pattern when using some suunto+ functions to affect the vo2. E.q.: When strava relative effort I always had vo2 when TP I had the bug. I will try it and will give you a feedback.

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @EzioAuditore
        last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 09:02

        @hristijan-petreski that is interesting. Please keep me posted

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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
          last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 10:09

          @argo320 lets continue here

          • What activity do you use ?
          • What S+ do you use
          • What belt / OHR do you use
          • Does the vo2max not get reported on the summary of the sport (after finishing the activity) ?

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            EzioAuditore Gold Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
            last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 10:26

            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos In my case I had:

            • running (the basic/default and custom created)
              – without belt
              – belt too (HRM Pro)
              Always when choosing suunto+ with TP my vo2max was absent (in the watch after the activity was finished but also when visiting the logbook). I used also Climb/Hill and the Strava relative effort and the Vo2 was present. Will hill run tomorrow so I will be using Climb again, but on Saturday I will have long run and will try the TP data. Will report further if all is ok after this FW. Cheers.

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              Argonaut330 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
              last edited by Argonaut330 6 Oct 2021, 10:29 10 Jun 2021, 10:27

              @dimitrios-kanellopoulos ok and thanks for your time, so:

              • I mainly and only use RUNNING

              • Usually i use NO S+ at all, if i go on unknown trail sometimes i use SAFE or if doing some treshold i use TrainingPeaks Running Pace (but very seldom)

              • No belt, just wrist

              • It doesnt get reported on the watch summary at the end and on the app VO2 tab

              As said, this pattern is quite randomized, sometimes i get the VO2 either with or without the S+ functions.
              Today, after the update, i went for this run to test it and i got no VO2, using Weather S+.

              Let me know if anything else is needed 😉

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 10:36

                Lets nail this one. Please report again with the findings after the update etc

                NOTE: For OHR if the quality is bad it can not appear , but that is a different case

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                  Egika Platinum Member
                  last edited by Egika 6 Oct 2021, 10:37 10 Jun 2021, 10:36

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos so now I do get a strange effect with the firmware of today:
                  I start a running activity as a test indoors, let it record for 30sec and stop it wothout actually moving (no GPS, HR 60bpm).
                  I get a VO2max registered of 53.1 in the summary of this activity and this value is also updated in the VO2 in the main screens.
                  I think this should not happen?!

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                    Argonaut330 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                    last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 10:39

                    @dimitrios-kanellopoulos ok i will use for a week or so, and taking note of behaviour re VO2 recording, then will report again on this thread and take it from there. In the meantime let me know whether i need to send the logs today, grazie.

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Egika
                      last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 10:44

                      @egika for such a small run it should show some previous calculated value. Vo2max depends on previous runs.

                      Also on short activities it might increase due to the little hr raise

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                        Egika Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                        last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 10:46

                        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos thanks for the explanation
                        yes, it just increased 🙂

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                        Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                          last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 13:55

                          So do you guys train often?
                          Do you get a vo2max value , and then on the next run the value is completely missing from the summary (without resetting the watch etc)

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                            EzioAuditore Gold Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                            last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 14:06

                            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos I run at least 3-4 times a week and do aerobics 2-3 times and then some bike (commuting).
                            But lately even without the bug fix (previous FW) I always had Vo2 because I was always setting suunto+ to Strava relative effort (I thought this is the reason I always have vo2).

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                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @EzioAuditore
                              last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 14:16

                              @hristijan-petreski yes that’s how it should work. I don’t see an issue here right ?

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                                EzioAuditore Gold Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 15:37

                                @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Yes no issue there. The issue was that everytime i choose suunto+ TrainingPeaks the Vo2 was lost. I have not been using it ever since. That’s why I said I will try again on Sunday with the new FW and TP 🙂

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                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @EzioAuditore
                                  last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 16:13

                                  @hristijan-petreski that’s a great indicator.

                                  I just today used tp heart rate and had vo2max.

                                  Please keep me posted.

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                                    Argonaut330 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                    last edited by 10 Jun 2021, 20:44

                                    @dimitrios-kanellopoulos yes i train at least 5 times per week and so far, before the update, as average I got 2 VO2 per week out of 5…as you know today , after the update, no VO2 …more to follow in the next days. Ciao

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                                      EzioAuditore Gold Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                      last edited by 11 Jun 2021, 12:41

                                      @dimitrios-kanellopoulos

                                      so just to keep you updated. Ran today with the belt and TP as suunto+ and the Vo2 is working just fine. I guess my bad OHR readings were the result of missing Vo2. Ever since I’ve been using belt all is working flawlessly. Thanks. I will try OHR on another run and if something changes will inform. Take care!

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