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  • G Offline
    Gosem Bronze Member @Guest
    last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 06:01

    @andré-faria Hi André, thanks for sharing you data 🙂 … did I get I right, the gps data were not that nice, or? what kind of setting did you use at GPS settings? Many thanks, Martin

    Bildschirmfoto 2021-06-18 um 08.00.07.png Bildschirmfoto 2021-06-18 um 07.59.52.png

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      nseslija Bronze Member @Guest
      last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 06:33

      @andré-faria That looks good, thanks for sharing.

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        A Former User @Guest
        last edited by A Former User 18 Jun 2021, 06:39

        @andré-faria said in Real world data:

        5k “walk run “ s9p in gps only
        https://www.suunto.com/move/andrfaria640/60cc26410a970d0c596558fe

        Garmin 245 (doesn’t have baro ) + decathlon hr strap
        https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/6977857873

        Small 16k team bike ride:
        S9p
        https://www.suunto.com/move/andrfaria640/60cb342bf1f0e24ada24b377

        Edge 530 (decathlon hr strap)
        https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/6973800924

        Same trace (±) on different times with different watches (some altitude may vary if I climbed some stairs on the way or notm but it should vary that much, although not everytime the case)

        Ambit 3 peak sapphire

        https://www.suunto.com/move/andrfaria640/5fc9dd2f586ad13e50eca662

        Garmin FR45

        https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/6315306290

        Fenix 6s sapphire

        https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/6534082606

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          A Former User @Gosem
          last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 06:39

          @gosem said in Real world data:

          @andré-faria Hi André, thanks for sharing you data 🙂 … did I get I right, the gps data were not that nice, or? what kind of setting did you use at GPS settings? Many thanks, Martin

          Bildschirmfoto 2021-06-18 um 08.00.07.png Bildschirmfoto 2021-06-18 um 07.59.52.png

          What activity is that?
          I was seeking those parts and can’t find them.
          I found the gps quite good, specially because this zones are tricky for gps.
          Setting GPS+QZSS

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          • K Offline
            Kurt68
            last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 11:01

            First mountain tour today with the S9P and the altitude measurement and the GPS make a very good impression.

            S9P Hike

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              Theo Lakerveld Bronze Member
              last edited by Theo Lakerveld 18 Jun 2021, 11:51

              I did my first ride with the S9P yesterday. Most of the data seems to be good, though the S9B OHR is way too high compared with my Wahoo Bolt + Polar OH1. It reads at least 10-15% high during a threshold effort:

              S9B: https://www.suunto.com/nb-no/move/lakerveldt/60cb8f3fe9893c2c684ef50a

              Bolt + OH1: https://www.strava.com/activities/5486185880

              This was pre FW update to 2.16.26. I continue testing troughout the weekend where I have a swim, long run and long ride planned.

              I love the form factor of the S9P compared with my SSU though!

              Previously used: Cyclosport HAC4, Polar S710, Ambit 2S, Ambit 3S, SSU, S5P, S9P Ti. Currently using: Race Ti.

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                A Former User
                last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 12:47

                Did a hike today to check out new trails and do a bit of recovery. Had a route set up and used snap-to-route feature. Here’s a comparison to F6X that was just tracking in the background, connected to HRM-TRI:

                S9P-Snap.PNG

                Some of the points:

                1. I think despite snapping, S9P is right here, I quickly went down the wrong path then came back. No way it was in the roundabout fashion of F6X.
                2. Here we see snap-to-route artifact cutting me straight even though trail was running around a bit. You can see plenty of those straight sections even though I was getting on and off the route to get the picture. Yes, snap was meant to do that, but looks funny on the trail
                3. Another case of wrong turn. S9P is probably closer to reality.
                4. Not sure what happened there other than snap-to-route artifact.
                5. Some UFO maneuvers by snap-to-route. Busted! US Navy, you found me!

                All in all, given how close the network of intersecting trails was I think snap-to-route performed fairly well despite plenty of obstruction from rocks and trees. It did cut some of my wondering. Final distance is 2.57 in S9P, 2.60 in F6X.

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                  A Former User
                  last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 12:59

                  The altitude on the same hike:

                  S9P-Altitude.PNG

                  Even though profiles look fairly close, you can see S9P tracking me a good deal higher for most of the hike. Interestingly enough, the S9P ascent then is just 259 ft while F6X is 361 ft. When corrected in TP, F6X elevation gain is 233 ft. Given difference in GPS tracks, I’d say S9P wins again, without any corrections.

                  The heart rate didn’t fare as well though. S9P tracked really well first 10-12 minutes of the hike, then mostly lost it. The average were still fairly close but:

                  S9P-HR.PNG

                  This is very unlike yesterday’s threshold run where S9P was spot on against strap, down to a beat:

                  S9P-HR2.PNG

                  Then I shouldn’t hold hiking performance against it. Fenix wouldn’t be perfect without a strap either. And I know COROS is considerably worse.

                  I continue to be impressed.

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
                    last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 13:07

                    @nickk keep in mind one thing when hiking. The blood flow is restricted resulting in typically lower HR from any device. A belt reference is needed. Lifting the hand , letting some blood flow fixes that.

                    Unfortunately no OHR will ever fix that due to the nature of the human body (I hold my breath to be mistaken)

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
                      last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 13:09

                      @nickk regarding the altitude.

                      The initial altitude of the s9P was 10 meters pretty much wrong. So at this case we check the vertical error (that is typically 5-20m). If the error is higher than the difference it you apply we keep it uncalibrated but slowly letting it adjust (so a kalman filter). If the conditions provide we retrospectively correct.

                      In your case as you can see we slowly corrected the altitude instead letting it jump to some not correct value that would have cought the users eye, and also would have provided subsequent wrong ascents and descents.

                      I hope it makes a little sense

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                        A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                        last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 13:11

                        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos That’s fine with me. As I said: I don’t think F6X would have done better without a strap, and I know for a fact both COROS and Polar are no better. COROS was a total basket case when I tried its OHR on several hikes.

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
                          last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 13:12

                          @nickk agree. Same here. I tested coros apex pro for a few and ohr was better than the s9b but worse than the s3 and worse of course than the s9P.

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                            Kurt68 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                            last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 13:33

                            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos I always use a strap for hiking. On my hike today, the altitude measurement was almost perfect. The S9P was only 2m higher at prominent points with official altitude information.

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                              Theo Lakerveld Bronze Member
                              last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 14:09

                              Just tried a first short and easy swim. I have the impression that the GPS is considerably better than my SSU. Total distance is quite spot on. Heart rate is still erratic.

                              https://strava.app.link/pW11XDbTbhb

                              Previously used: Cyclosport HAC4, Polar S710, Ambit 2S, Ambit 3S, SSU, S5P, S9P Ti. Currently using: Race Ti.

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                                isazi Moderator
                                last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 16:06

                                Hiking today, will post a comparison against Polar OH1 if I can!

                                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                Blog: isazi's home

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                                  isazi Moderator
                                  last edited by isazi 18 Jun 2021, 16:35

                                  So first day in the French Alps, I think the Peak’s OHR is working very well for me. Here it’s against a Polar OH1 paired to the baro.

                                  amCharts.png

                                  Hiking, no poles.

                                  Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                  Blog: isazi's home

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                                    Kurt68 @isazi
                                    last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 16:57

                                    @isazi looks good. On the next hike I will test it with the hiking poles and see if it works that well.

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                                      Mff73 @isazi
                                      last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 16:59

                                      @isazi
                                      Hey, where are you near in the French Alps?

                                      Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                      Suunto Vertical all black
                                      Wife : S9PP
                                      SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                      Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                        isazi Moderator @Mff73
                                        last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 17:00

                                        @mff73 spending a week mountaineering in the Écrins!

                                        Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                        Blog: isazi's home

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                                          Mff73 @isazi
                                          last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 17:03

                                          @isazi
                                          Enjoy, nice and perfect massif for this.

                                          Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                          Suunto Vertical all black
                                          Wife : S9PP
                                          SA: Always the latest beta :)
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