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    • Oliver_ZO Offline
      Oliver_Z @sartoric
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      @sartoric sorry about that. I’m New in this forum and thought I replied to an existing discussion… Didn’t want to create a New one

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      • Oliver_ZO Offline
        Oliver_Z @surfboomerang
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        @surfboomerang Sure, I know what you mean… Every ascent and descent will be summed up. But like in my case it’s really too much 🤔

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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Oliver_Z
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          @oliver-zamberger looks like the barometer had water in

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          • Oliver_ZO Offline
            Oliver_Z @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos that wasn’t a Problem since the läßt Update. This is an expensive multisport watch and some sweat shouldn’t influence the Barometer. 🤔

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              sartoric Moderator @Oliver_Z
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              @oliver-zamberger
              Well … that’s hard due to physical limitation 😁

              It’s not easy to fill it with water, but it can happen

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              • Oliver_ZO Offline
                Oliver_Z @sartoric
                last edited by

                @sartoric and today it happened again. The Barometer Was always free from sweat and not covered with anything. Descending but then suddenly the watch added about 20 m to ascend. So after the hike more than 100 m altitude (ascent/descent) are wrong. And Not any answer from the Support. That’s really annoying!

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                • isaziI Offline
                  isazi Moderator @Oliver_Z
                  last edited by

                  @oliver-zamberger did you try cleaning the baro hole? Warm water, a soft brush.

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                  • freeheelerF Offline
                    freeheeler @Oliver_Z
                    last edited by freeheeler

                    @oliver-zamberger
                    and a link to the activity to check the graph, please… otherwise it’s just wild guessing for us 😉

                    living sideways

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                    • Oliver_ZO Offline
                      Oliver_Z @freeheeler
                      last edited by

                      @freeheeler I’m thankful for any solutions/help

                      So here is the link

                      https://www.suunto.com/move/oliverzamberger/60cdf605891a7f7d02f03c1d

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                      • surfboomerangS Offline
                        surfboomerang @Oliver_Z
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                        @oliver-zamberger Was the wach protected by a sleeve? In other words, could wind be a factor in this situation?

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                        • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Oliver_Z
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                          @oliver-zamberger Here is an example from this weekend. I was wearing an S9P on my left wrist and an S9baroTi model on my right wrist. I was carrying a handheld water bottle. On my right wrist by carrying the bottle my skin was blocking the baro hole on the S9bTi. Not the jagged altitude profile AND note the altitude is 2-fold off. There are two readings for the baro as I stopped the watch a few minutes into the run as it did not connect to the smartsensor.
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                          • Oliver_ZO Offline
                            Oliver_Z @surfboomerang
                            last edited by Oliver_Z

                            @surfboomerang the watch wasn’t covered by anything. So the baro sensor was always free. Also there wasn’t really any Wind… But if Wind influences the Barometer this much to deliver wrong data, why it ever integrated into the watch🤔

                            Is there any possibility to deactivate the Barometer?

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                              Oliver_Z @Brad_Olwin
                              last edited by Oliver_Z

                              @brad_olwin i can See. It’s totally clear, that the the altitude can’t be 100% correct. But it isn’t ok, when it’s several 100 m incorrect.

                              And this appears to Happen most when ascending 🤔

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                                surfboomerang @Oliver_Z
                                last edited by surfboomerang

                                @oliver-zamberger Wind does have an effect on pressure and altitude, but I don’t know to what extent.

                                This is data from a random windsurf session on flat water:
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                                In the old Movescount days there was an option to select how pressure changes should be interpreted by the watch, but that option has been removed in SA unfortunately.

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                                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Oliver_Z
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                                  @oliver-zamberger This is the primary reason that incorrect altitude gain happens, I have had this happen due to skin (as in the example I posted) and because of wind. It is something you can learn to avoid. If you look at the profile in my post, it did not happen on the descent. I noticed the wrong ascent, knew what was causing this and kept the water bottle in my left hand on the descent.

                                  I would argue that your incorrect data are likely due to similar issues, once you know what they are you can typically prevent it from happening.

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                                  • Oliver_ZO Offline
                                    Oliver_Z @Brad_Olwin
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                                    @brad_olwin I ask myself: if the watch reacts this much sensitive on sweat, Wind, water etc… IT shouldn’t be used for outdoor Sports what it was made for 🤔

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                                      cosme.costa @Oliver_Z
                                      last edited by cosme.costa

                                      @oliver-zamberger said in Ascent/descent completly wrong:

                                      @brad_olwin I ask myself: if the watch reacts this much sensitive on sweat, Wind, water etc… IT shouldn’t be used for outdoor Sports what it was made for 🤔

                                      I think that your self question is a little bit biased. @Brad_Olwin and others are posting the possible causes of your issue, and it is not brand dependant, it is technology dependant. That you have had a problem, doesn’t mean that the problem is general. I never had had this issue, nor my friends using the same watch, in general S9B tend to underestimate the ascent.

                                      BTW this watch is definitively an outdoors watch, you only need to check all the professional athletes using it.

                                      As you have said in your previous post you didn’t have these issues before, so something have triggered it, a new way of wearing the watch, some holes of the sensor covered or blocked, using poles…If I were you I would start cleaning the baro sensor (warm water and a very soft toothbrush), then a softreset, if this doesn’t work then a reinstallation of the firmware and if eventually still doesn’t works I would contact support, the sensor can be broken too.

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                                      • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @Oliver_Z
                                        last edited by Brad_Olwin

                                        @oliver-zamberger I will add to @cosmecosta, who said it perfectly. My issue happened only because I was wearing the watch on my right wrist and had a water bottle in that hand. This has not happened when wearing on the left wrist for me. In total, I run 5-6 days per week all year. I have had this issue maybe 3-4 times since I owned the watch in 3 years.

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                                        • isaziI Offline
                                          isazi Moderator @Brad_Olwin
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                                          @brad_olwin it happened to me twice in 2 years, and it was in days with gale strong winds. I could have avoided the issue by just wearing the watch under the jacket, but I didn’t 🙂

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                                          • PavlasP Offline
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                                            last edited by Pavlas

                                            I had the same problem on the bike today. I used GPS+Glonass after a long time. But it’s true that I was wearing the watch on my right hand (to tan my left hand 😁)

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