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    • MiniForkliftM Offline
      MiniForklift Platinum Member
      last edited by MiniForklift

      I have noticed that my ascent seems to be drifting further away from what I know it should be. A hill that I run up that always used to top out around 350m now reads around 330ish. The ascent that’s recorded by my training partner is also starting to vary quite a bit with him now always logging quite a few more metres of elevation than myself, for whatever reason I tend to grab a few more metres along the ground so my pace always comes out looking a bit better than his. I’m using an S9B and he has a top of the line Garmin Enduro that’s a little over a month old

      For sure it could be his watch that’s out, although I’m leaning towards it being mine due to the fact that his is essentially new; plus when he started noticing the variations in our vert he recalibrated his (I can’t seem to find how this is done on the S9B or whether it’s even possible to do)?

      Earlier this week there was a considerable difference of 48m/157ft in less than two hours of running…

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      I regularly sync to the app on both my phone and laptop and the latest updates are on so I’m a little miffed 🙄

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      • freeheelerF Offline
        freeheeler @MiniForklift
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        @miniforklift
        you can try to soak your watch over night in a glass of water, rinse it afterwards a d check how it records the alti on a hill you know well. if this doesn’t help a careful treatment with a soft toothbrush could be done.
        it sounds like the sensor is collecting a bit dirt as you say it’s getting off over time

        living sideways

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        • MiniForkliftM Offline
          MiniForklift Platinum Member @freeheeler
          last edited by MiniForklift

          @freeheeler said in Ascent/descent completly wrong:

          @miniforklift
          you can try to soak your watch over night in a glass of water, rinse it afterwards a d check how it records the alti on a hill you know well. if this doesn’t help a careful treatment with a soft toothbrush could be done.
          it sounds like the sensor is collecting a bit dirt as you say it’s getting off over time

          Cheers, okay will do this now as I have another run with my training partner tomorrow morning. Should be similar to the one we just did so will be interesting to see if improves things. Thanks

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          • S.PichiS Offline
            S.Pichi
            last edited by

            i found this problem as well with trail running.
            suunto app show 3638m as ascent , but when syncing this same workout to strva it show only 1083.

            https://www.suunto.com/en-gb/move/usaratohm/60e0784b1dc2d5647adaa446
            https://www.strava.com/activities/5568664347

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            • isaziI Offline
              isazi Moderator @S.Pichi
              last edited by

              @s-pichi how old is your watch? Have you tried cleaning the baro sensor?

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              • S.PichiS Offline
                S.Pichi @isazi
                last edited by

                @isazi
                my watch is S9B and yes i tried to clean the baro sensor already . this happened 2 time with me since last month.

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                • Mister PYCM Offline
                  Mister PYC Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
                  last edited by Mister PYC

                  @brad_olwin

                  I was in doubt you is hidden, behind this book and spying on this forum secretly … humm … he is trapped … easy … was a guy wearing 2 watches …

                  Joke apart … how do you export the data … is it from the APP … honestly I feel stupid with this question because I could have spent more time on the APP to check myself … but just to catch if there are some additional SUUNTO apps that we could download on computer or if you “just” exported and then "EXCEL"ised it …

                  Yet I have not spent to many time on the APP …

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                  • isaziI Offline
                    isazi Moderator @S.Pichi
                    last edited by

                    @s-pichi anything particular in those bad activities? Environment, clothing, whatever? Also, if you can share the activities people can give you some feedback.

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                    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
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                      @mister-pyc said in Ascent/descent completly wrong:

                      @brad_olwin

                      I was in doubt you is hidden, behind this book and spying on this forum secretly … humm … he is trapped … easy … was a guy wearing 2 watches …

                      Joke apart … how do you export the data … is it from the APP … honestly I feel stupid with this question because I could have spent more time on the APP to check myself … but just to catch if there are some additional SUUNTO apps that we could download on computer or if you “just” exported and then "EXCEL"ised it …

                      Yet I have not spent to many time on the APP …

                      That’s a funny image. I almost always wear two watches, sometimes 3 or 4! The data are then synced to SA and if you have a Quantified Self account, you can merge activities. This will allow you to compare the behavior of multiple devices worn for the same exercise. Very simple.

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                      • Mister PYCM Offline
                        Mister PYC Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
                        last edited by

                        @brad_olwin
                        I just assemble it for the joke when I saw you were wearing 2 watches.
                        Good idea BTW so you can compare…
                        I will compare soon the compass of my SUUNTO 9Baro with the one my wife GARMIN 625 forrener, also the one of the phone … and finally my old mountain compass … Last time I did this (not with the last one) and I was surprised to see that I obtained 3 norths 🙂
                        So I would like to see versus the old compass which will be the most accurate …

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                        • Ambro PacA Offline
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                          Since I am having similar problems I will just replied this chat.

                          I have Suunto 9 Baro watch and I have problems with ascent/descent data.
                          It’s been a week experiencing this problem.
                          While cycling I have mount for my watch on handlebar. During cycling data for ascent/descent is false. After finishing the activity I use Suunto App for sync to see the datas and ascent/descent one is false. Since I hace Suunto app connected with Strava I see real information on Strava.

                          So my question now is what’s wrong? I used Suunto support and they advised me to re-install my Suunto App which I did and the problem still presist. Dunno why would falsa data be on while cycling already?

                          Someone had similar problems? What to do because it’s annoying…
                          See attached data.

                          Same activity
                          Suunto app:
                          IMG_3520.jpg
                          Strava app:
                          IMG_3522.jpg

                          Suunto app
                          IMG_3534.jpg
                          Strava app
                          IMG_3533.jpg

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                          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                            Brad_Olwin Moderator @Ambro Pac
                            last edited by

                            @Ambro-Pac Hopefully this will help.
                            https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9960/more-faq?_=1713323274008

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                            • Mff73M Offline
                              Mff73 @Brad_Olwin
                              last edited by

                              @Brad_Olwin said in Ascent/descent completly wrong:

                              @Ambro-Pac Hopefully this will help.
                              https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9960/more-faq?_=1713323274008

                              in this case, the ascent in SA is far less than expected, so this point is not in the FAQ.
                              @Ambro-Pac , could you share Suunto links for those activities so that any of us could check and imagine a potential explanation ?

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                              • Stefano M64S Offline
                                Stefano M64 Silver Members @Ambro Pac
                                last edited by

                                @Ambro-Pac have you checked the altitude versus time/distance graph from both app?

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                                • EgikaE Offline
                                  Egika Platinum Member @Mff73
                                  last edited by

                                  @Mff73 the exact case is not in the FAQ, but with less altitude accumulated than expected, there is a chance, that one of the reasons for wrong altitude is still valid:
                                  clogged baro holes.
                                  If the sensor is not well connected to the ambient pressure, it will react slower.

                                  So I’d suggest to check the sensor holes

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                                  • Ambro PacA Offline
                                    Ambro Pac
                                    last edited by

                                    I’ve figured out that my Altitude is not showing correctly. When checking Altitude the data is static, it doesn’t show any change even I walk up and down on the hill. So I probably switched something off? I presume this is the problem showing false data?

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                                    • EgikaE Offline
                                      Egika Platinum Member @Ambro Pac
                                      last edited by

                                      @Ambro-Pac at least you are seeing something that has the same root cause like your activities with too little vert.
                                      I am not aware there is something to switch off.
                                      So I would try firstly: reboot the watch (in case something in reading the baro sensor got messed up)
                                      Then secondly check the sensor holes, soak them with warm water and rinse them.

                                      (you can also try if the altitude changes if you dip the watch under water - this increases the pressure like descending a few 10 meters)

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                                      • Stefano M64S Offline
                                        Stefano M64 Silver Members @Ambro Pac
                                        last edited by

                                        @Ambro-Pac said in Ascent/descent completly wrong:

                                        I’ve figured out that my Altitude is not showing correctly. When checking Altitude the data is static, it doesn’t show any change even I walk up and down on the hill. So I probably switched something off? I presume this is the problem showing false data?

                                        you could also try to go to the Alti & Baro settings and select Auto adjust altitude, this use GPS data to do a 3D fix.

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                                        • Ambro PacA Offline
                                          Ambro Pac @Stefano M64
                                          last edited by

                                          I’ve preformed hard reset of the watch and now it’s working normally. Duuno why it happened in the first place and I hope it won’t repeat.
                                          Thanks all for suggestions.

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