Body Resources general whackiness

[zhang965]

@tomas5 said in Body Resources general whackiness:

@zhang965 so it will never work correctly on S5?

For example now I am watching TV for around 2-3hours but by watch i am stressed and resources are still on 0%.

it works correctly for almost population, but you (and me) maybe your HRV is not in the 80% case of all

[Tomas5]

@zhang965 i will test light excercise with hr belt if there will be some difference, but i think i had same result in past with WHR and HR belt in terms of resources consuption.

[Nikita_Gx]

Same thing here, hardly ever exceeded 75% of resources and the drop after sitting at my laptop is immense. 7PM I am at zero resources.

[Jamie BG]

Its interesting as Garmin Fenix uses the same sleep tracking and body resources (both first beat) as per the Suunto 7. So you get the same score, though may be slighly more refined on the F6 as respiration, pulse ox also factor into it.

The big difference is in how the sleep score is reflected in the recharge of the body resources/body battery. Garmin uses it own calc for the providing the recharge value, rather than the first beat one, and it is far more generous and much better reflects what I generally feel. With the S7 my resource as always gone by 8pm at .latest, with the F6 I am usually between 20-40% by 12am
The other difference is recharging during the day - never really saw it with the S7, however with the F6 if your HRV is good, then you do get some recharging - generally always get it when you nap, and if sitting still watching TV etc, often see some recharge due to that.

It will be interesting to see if first beat now potentially leverages Garmin’s resoures and knowledge and improves its recharging side of the body resources.

[lexterm77]

For me it depends on nutrition, I get good resources when I eat large amount of fruits before sleep, where vegetables really dont make any difference for me at least. I try to repeat and I have been logging all my food via fitnesspal connected to TP for over 5 years now minus my trips outside country. Best results (lowest HR) is basically when I have carbs as 80% of intake (not junk food though), stay well hydrated, and sleep at 16C.

[helgonet12]

Any chance body resources will be fixed with the next firmware update?

[suzzlo]

@helgonet12 I haven’t read anything about it yet

[Giacomo Laffranchini]

@lexterm77 wow, on my S9P I never saw resources above 70% and vast majority of days I am at 0% before 1:00 PM.
In my case I guess it has more to do with the fact that all myHR daily reading somehow appears to be wrong; looking at my daily HR one would think I am working out 24/7 non stop.
Interestingly , I gain resources if I start an activity ( generic indoor) on the watch.
Hopefully things will improve

[lexterm77]

@giacomo-laffranchini

Does your morning HR after you wake up and sit 10min motionless before breakfast or coffee match the resting hr on your watch?

[Giacomo Laffranchini]

@lexterm77 that is a valid point, thank you. In the past it was; i then saw a suggestion in a forum indicating to use the avarage HR during sleep as resting HR. Since then I have been using the latter. I can certainly try to change it back and check if the change produces any difference in terms of resources etc.

Nevertheless, my watch recording (outside an activity )are still highly inflated. I suspect this may also paly a role on resources.

Thank you for your suggestion!

[Patrick Rx]

@andré-faria about every 2nd day the resources are below 20% at lunchtime when I am in office. This resources feature does not work at all and is more or less useless (not even an approximate guessing) Today it dropped from 80% to 30% in 3h. It usually drops way faster when sitting or standing around than during an activity (with average hr >130bpm)

[Jamie BG]

@giacomo-laffranchini would also suggest checking your HR zones, and making sure they are appropriate.

[helgonet12]

@jamie-bg Hi! I have tried that but with same result. The body resources are going from 85% in the morning and after 15min slow walk with the dog it is down to 35% and by lunch it is down to 0%. I have tried soft reset, hard reset but with the same result. Both on S9B & S9Peak

[Giacomo Laffranchini]

@jamie-bg thank you for the tip. Not sure whether or not my zones are indeed “appropriate.” What i did is: performing some tests with an HR chest monitor to find out max HR and resting HR, set the values in the watch, and let the watch calculate/adjust zones accordingly. I assume should be suitable approach, but perhaps there is a more precise approach that I am not aware of.

[lexterm77]

@jamie-bg said in Body Resources general whackiness:

@giacomo-laffranchini would also suggest checking your HR zones, and making sure they are appropriate.

Zones don’t matter, resting, max hr, age height etc influence calc.

[lexterm77]

I wore s7 and S9P today, they seem to be in agreement.

[Giacomo Laffranchini]

@lexterm77 indeed i noticed that by increasing resting HR ( actually beyond what is my actual HR) and increasing max HR ( beyond my actual) resources are somehow more stable and declining at a lower pace. However, the side effect of doing so is that the watch struggles to precisely detect when I felt asleep. I guess my HR while reading before going to bed went below the resting HR set in the watch.
I guess by paying with the two numbers one could try finding the sweet spot.

[lexterm77]

@giacomo-laffranchini

Your hr will go below resting hr when horizontal. Sensors not detecting movement for a while will assume you are asleep. It takes time to determine and my sleeping times are a little bit off when I wear them both, but not a lot. I also monitor movement with sleep app on iPhone and all 3 agree with each other to a 5min.

[A Former User]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Body Resources general whackiness:

This issue affects all watches currently and I am afraid it’s outside Suunto. We have spent quite some effort to remedy this and atm it’s not on our hands.

I am talking specifically about the sudden drop after something easy. Easily reproducible with a stretching or yoga activity.

Thanks, will this issue be corrected in next update or soon? Firstbeat 1 year time

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@mountainchris I don’t know yet to be honest.