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5K effort won't burn any fat? O_o

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    isazi Moderator @lexterm77
    last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 19:26

    @lexterm77 isn’t 1 g of fat 8 (almost 9) calories?

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      zhang965 @lexterm77
      last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 19:47

      @lexterm77 said in 5K effort won't burn any fat? O_o:

      @zhang965

      How did you manage to extract 300cal from 50g of carbs?

      I don’t know, buy one get one free?

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        lexterm77 Bronze Member @isazi
        last edited by lexterm77 18 Oct 2021, 20:22

        @isazi said in 5K effort won't burn any fat? O_o:

        @lexterm77 isn’t 1 g of fat 8 (almost 9) calories?

        Yes, add up all and you get approximately 4cal per gram of carbs or proteins and almost 9 cal per gram of fat. Anaerobic pathway you get one pay more not the other way around unless “debt” is included into caloric consumption or burner only calculates aerobic consumption?

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          isazi Moderator @lexterm77
          last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 20:50

          @lexterm77 yeah I read fat instead of carb, sorry 😂

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            lexterm77 Bronze Member @isazi
            last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 21:08

            @isazi

            turns out 5.5cal per gram of carbs, very strange 😆

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              zhang965
              last edited by 19 Oct 2021, 21:18

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              1g fat
              60 g crarbs

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                herlas Silver Members @zhang965
                last edited by 19 Oct 2021, 21:34

                @zhang965 those HR zones seem wrong right? 179 green ? 🙂

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                  zhang965 @herlas
                  last edited by 20 Oct 2021, 05:36

                  @herlas said in 5K effort won't burn any fat? O_o:

                  @zhang965 those HR zones seem wrong right? 179 green ? 🙂

                  180 185 is my zone 3
                  186 196 is z4
                  Beyond 196 z5

                  I did the test in a lab

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                    zhang965
                    last edited by zhang965 24 Oct 2021, 08:49

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                    so we had:

                    1(fat)+60(carbs)=297 (my last 5k résultat)
                    3(fat)+103(carbs)=574 (this 10k)

                    than fat = 50, carbs =4 …

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                      lexterm77 Bronze Member @zhang965
                      last edited by 24 Oct 2021, 10:29

                      so we had:

                      1(fat)+60(carbs)=297 (my last 5k résultat)
                      3(fat)+103(carbs)=574 (this 10k)

                      than fat = 50, carbs =4 …

                      Fat is 8.8cal/g, rest is Lithium Ion

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                        zhang965 @lexterm77
                        last edited by 24 Oct 2021, 11:06

                        @lexterm77 said in 5K effort won't burn any fat? O_o:

                        so we had:

                        1(fat)+60(carbs)=297 (my last 5k résultat)
                        3(fat)+103(carbs)=574 (this 10k)

                        than fat = 50, carbs =4 …

                        Fat is 8.8cal/g, rest is Lithium Ion

                        ah ok ,so I got 5.5 cal/g carbs

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                          lexterm77 Bronze Member @zhang965
                          last edited by 26 Oct 2021, 19:03

                          @zhang965

                          Burner appears to exclude anaerobic portion while calorie data does not. I am not sure but someone can confirm.

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                            isazi Moderator @lexterm77
                            last edited by 26 Oct 2021, 20:21

                            @lexterm77 now that you say so, I think calories does also include the metabolic calories, so maybe burner only looks at the activity. Could this be the reason?

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                              lexterm77 Bronze Member @isazi
                              last edited by lexterm77 26 Oct 2021, 20:59

                              @isazi

                              On Long walks burner is closer to calorie counter (50cal missing) vs running (progression runs z3-z5 intervals) (130cal missing) discrepancies would increase as time progresses. This is what I thought but data point to something else (hinting at anaerobic)

                              55min interval 905cal 156g carb 17g fat (770cal in burner)
                              130cal missing (2.36cal per minute)

                              90min walk 881cal 119g carb 40g fat (828cal in burner)
                              50cal missing (0.55 cal per minute)

                              97min trail run easy 1322cal 233g carb 43g fat (1310cal in burner) this one is accurate

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @lexterm77
                                last edited by 27 Oct 2021, 07:31

                                @lexterm77 guys keep in mind the passive calories. They are counted for the workout but should not count for the burner

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                                  lexterm77 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by 27 Oct 2021, 12:41

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                                  Basal metabolism == passive calories.

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                                    lexterm77 Bronze Member @lexterm77
                                    last edited by 1 Nov 2021, 20:51

                                    Found out what it is, sometimes it does not calculate last chunk, hence the missing carbs/fat.

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                                      zhang965
                                      last edited by 24 Nov 2021, 16:44

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                                      This time I spent only 33g carbs.lol

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                                        BinoWorld UK Bronze Member @zhang965
                                        last edited by 24 Nov 2021, 18:35

                                        @zhang965 I run my 5k in 40 minutes in zone 3 at about 143bpm and my fat burning is off the roof. The zone you are running is in eating in to your carbs rather then fat. From I can see your a serious runner so this is expected at rate you run.

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