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Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9

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    Brad_Olwin Moderator @wmichi
    last edited by 4 Feb 2022, 01:51

    @wmichi Data should integrate with switching watches connected to the same account. However, data do not sync from the app to the watch.

    Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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      freeheeler @wmichi
      last edited by 4 Feb 2022, 05:53

      @wmichi
      depending what type you are and if you want more items with very similar functions… then you could keep both and use S9P for “casual”, which might be a bit overkill, and you could use S9B for sports.

      I learned for myself that I only want one watch, even I think sometimes it would be nice to have several watches, I think for me personally it is cumbersome and exaggerated.
      I think I would use both for couple of weeks and see which watch I like better and then get rid of the other one 🙂

      I would like to see a bigger version of S9P as a potential successor of my X-Alps some time in the future… hopefully not too soon. I think the clicks wouldn’t bother me. I tried them in a shop recently. But the tiny buttons would definitely bother me, since I really want to operate my watch with gloves!

      I remember that it was one of the selling points of the Vector… don’t know why this should have changed, unless the customer they’re targeting have changed

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        Egika Platinum Member @wmichi
        last edited by Egika 2 Apr 2022, 18:28 4 Feb 2022, 08:31

        @wmichi I think the same about the buttons of the S9P. Difficult to operate with gloves. I put this into all surveys 🙂
        For me the S9P has become my daily driver also mainly because it has such a good wrist HR measurement.
        I still cannot get rid of my S9B Ambassador Edition. It’s like a collectible…

        t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
        Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
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          wmichi @freeheeler
          last edited by 4 Feb 2022, 08:43

          @freeheeler Yes, it’s absolutely exaggerated and pure luxury. I think I was the target audience for something in between those two watches. Something you have called S9PXL multiple times in the forum 😉

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            isazi Moderator @freeheeler
            last edited by 4 Feb 2022, 09:00

            @freeheeler said in Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9:

            I learned for myself that I only want one watch, even I think sometimes it would be nice to have several watches, I think for me personally it is cumbersome and exaggerated.

            I am also a 1 watch person. S9P is my main driver, the watch I use for sports and that I wear during the day to check time. All the others are for testing.

            In the past I tried to have more than one watch (S7 + S9B) but it did not work for me.

            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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              Egika Platinum Member @wmichi
              last edited by 4 Feb 2022, 09:28

              @wmichi what exaclty would differentiate the S9PXL from the S9B?
              Just OTA updates and SpO2 would not make a big difference in day to day use.
              I can just think of improved OHR otherwise.
              What would make S9PXL different?

              t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
              Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
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                DMytro @Egika
                last edited by 4 Feb 2022, 10:24

                @egika a lot different things, in my opinion. Bigger battery, thinner bezel, maps, bigger storage (e.g. for maps and/or music), dual frequency gps chip. All this while maintaining the design language and keeping the watch body at the same thickness. One can argue that it will no longer be S9p XL, but S9 gen 2 or something - but so be it then:)

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                  wmichi @Egika
                  last edited by wmichi 2 Apr 2022, 10:38 4 Feb 2022, 10:34

                  @egika If I was Suunto, I would build something like that:

                  • Similar design language as S9P
                  • But with bigger, less noisy buttons
                  • Same diameter as S9B, but lower height. This would make the watch larger, but less bulky (less movement -> better OHR). If possible (antenna design), smaller black bezels around the display would be a nice touch 🙂
                  • Better vibrations and louder alarms (customizable per sport mode)
                  • A faster processor. Stability can not be an excuse for a sluggish UX
                  • All the rest the same as S9P

                  So regarding the hardware, basically a larger display and better performance. Of course a better battery is always nice, too. Regarding GPS I am very happy with the S9P. Do the latest S9B Titanium (blue and charcoal) have the same GPS chipset as the S9P?

                  OTA is standard nowadays, so it should be included (and I am pretty sure it will be in all future Suunto watches). I agree, SpO2 does not really make difference. In my opinion it is even completely useless for most people. But Suunto could add blood sugar and blood pressure measurement (of course on a medical level). That might be interesting for some people 😉

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                    Egika Platinum Member @DMytro
                    last edited by 4 Feb 2022, 10:51

                    @dmytro ok, got it now. This would indeed be “design your preferred Suunto model out of what is out there”

                    t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                    Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                    Run Lime

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                      DMytro @Egika
                      last edited by 4 Feb 2022, 10:55

                      @egika haha, exactly! Like current suunto customiser but more in depth.

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                        freeheeler @Egika
                        last edited by 4 Feb 2022, 11:44

                        @egika
                        position of the baro holes… I frequently need to be cautious to not block the holes on my S9B.

                        living sideways

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                          MiniForklift Platinum Member @freeheeler
                          last edited by 4 Feb 2022, 19:38

                          @freeheeler said in Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9:

                          position of the baro holes… I frequently need to be cautious to not block the holes on my S9B.

                          I wonder about that too whenever I wear long sleeves as I like my watch sitting pretty tight on the wrist

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                            Egika Platinum Member @freeheeler
                            last edited by Egika 2 May 2022, 07:11 5 Feb 2022, 07:11

                            @freeheeler baro holes - it seems to be difficult with every position:
                            Ambit hat them underneath afaik
                            S9B on the left: issues with clothes or wind for left handers
                            S9P on the bottom: issues with rain or snow falling on it, because holes pointing skywards during arm swing.

                            It’s not easy and some data processing needs to be applied in AL cases…

                            t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                            Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                            Run Lime

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                              lexterm77 Bronze Member @Egika
                              last edited by 5 Feb 2022, 10:45

                              @egika

                              You can have two baro sensors at different place to cancel the noise of the other.

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                                isazi Moderator @lexterm77
                                last edited by isazi 2 May 2022, 12:08 5 Feb 2022, 12:08

                                @lexterm77 first of all, you’ll need to put another sensor there, doubling the cost of that component, and the space it takes. Second, two sensors would be for fault tolerance if one suddenly drops dead, but it is no help for different behavior. You would need at least three to have a tiebreaker in case two sensors show different results.

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                                  lexterm77 Bronze Member @isazi
                                  last edited by 5 Feb 2022, 12:34

                                  @isazi

                                  Cost of machining titanium outweights the cost of baro 😀 . My S9B lost its baro accuracy over the years, when I calibrate my altitude baro is 6mbar off. X lander had calibration menu is there such thing on S9B hidden in fw?

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                                    freeheeler @isazi
                                    last edited by 5 Feb 2022, 15:25

                                    @isazi
                                    I would pay for 3 sensors right away. in an S9P XL there would even be space for it 🙂

                                    here’s my todays skitouring of not even 900 vertical meters…

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                                    living sideways

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                                      lexterm77 Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                      last edited by 5 Feb 2022, 15:39

                                      @freeheeler

                                      Me to, I’d pay for titanium watch with 3 sensors and a wireless charger than you can snap a magnetic ring around a bezel for on wrist charging capability during activity 🤤

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                                        freeheeler @freeheeler
                                        last edited by freeheeler 2 May 2022, 18:40 5 Feb 2022, 16:40

                                        @freeheeler said in Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9:

                                        here’s my todays skitouring of not even 900 vertical meters…

                                        I must admit that this is my first ski touring with the new FW. I’ll check tomorrow on the next skitour again…
                                        the graph itself looks solid, no suspicious “baro hole blocking spikes” as I know them from the past. Only a lot of ups and downs when zooming in…

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                                        living sideways

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                                          freeheeler @freeheeler
                                          last edited by 6 Feb 2022, 13:43

                                          @freeheeler said in Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9:

                                          I’ll check tomorrow on the next skitour again…

                                          no issue today with weird total ascent values… and now stopping highjacking this thread 😂

                                          living sideways

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