GPS jamming Russian border

Stefan Kersting

Hiked along the Russian border. See this activity
https://maps.suunto.com/move/keks76/62ee46533afdb602effd44bd?imageId=62ee4a3c4ab9573120bdeffb

Is that gps jamming we see here?

DMytro

@Stefan-Kersting it’s just GPS fleeing out of Russia too.

Stefan Kersting

@DMytro haha maybe that but really. Something. Is suspicious here. First the long lines between some gps points. Never had this Jason before. Then on the gravel road the zikkzakk line. Never had this before either

DMytro

@Stefan-Kersting I suppose it’s not far from belarus border either. They were seen to produce a lot of GPS disturbances since the war broke out. So it could’ve been the issue. Don’t think they have anything left to mess around on the finnish border.

pavel.samokha

@Stefan-Kersting hmm, it seems like this track is not visible anymore

but anyway there is a https://gpsjam.org/ and GPS jamming is fairly often happens in Russia

Stefan Kersting

@pavel-samokha the activity is public anyway…
I didn’t walk like this…

Stefan Kersting

@DMytro hiked in Finland so I think it’s too far away from Belarus

dulko79

@Stefan-Kersting you hiked like Michael Jackson

Stefan Kersting

@dulko79 moon walk to Russia

dulko79

@Stefan-Kersting

DMytro

@Stefan-Kersting ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Stefan Kersting

Again some strange behavior of the gps signal…

https://maps.suunto.com/move/keks76/62f2491c5e0cad733c429bd0?imageId=62f2498e5e0cad733c429cf5

MdzOtt

I cannot see the original track, but I have experienced “weird” GPS tracks in the past far away from the Russian border (in Canada). I find that in cold weather (-25 C or lower), under the canopy of trees, and at higher speeds (over 25 km/h (e.g. going downhill on XC skis)), can produce strange tracking results. I am not sure what impact the temperature has, but it is possible that what I wear in such weather (bulky clothing) has more to do with the problem than the temperature itself.

Stefan Kersting

@MdzOtt it’s summer an 30 plus. Trees all right that can be a reason but I’m hiking not faster than 4 km/h. But that the trees have such an impact…

Tomas5

@Stefan-Kersting i get crooked line too often with my S5. Just not so relular shaped like yours.

or this on another day.

And i have some much worse where watch completely lost GPS (i went to building for 5 minute) and than it took 20 minutes to get fix again so i have straight line on map.

TheGuyFromTheSummit

@Stefan-Kersting From my experience it is even worse when you walk. The slower the walking/running/skiing speed the worse the GPS line.

Stefan Kersting

@Tomas5 the track from yesterday’s hike in the finish forest. Due to the bad gps visibility that looks alright. But if you see the first screenshot from my hike along the border the pattern looks I little bit mor suspicious In my opinion

Tomas5

@Stefan-Kersting I would guess that GPS jamming would make GPS error much bigger but I can be mistaken, but this one looks like usual hikes with my S5 in forest.

Stefan Kersting

@Tomas5 and what do you think about the first track I posted?

Tomas5

@Stefan-Kersting well it is hard to tell zoom level just from screenshoot and url link doesn’t work. But it looks that it is near the path, i don’t know what speed you was walking / running. But usually while hiking I get much worse results with S5. But yes it has strange “regular” shape. But it can be just random. It is just my opinion (and i am no expert on GPS) but I think that if it was jamming, path wouldn’t be so accurate.