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Suunto 9 Baro AGPS n/a

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    isazi Moderator @Bradleyd
    last edited by 13 Nov 2022, 21:13

    @Bradleyd the easiest way is to go to the start screen well in advance. I usually open the screen already in the waiting area.

    This doesn’t mean Suunto shouldn’t solve this issue with AGPS on weekends, it’s weird and bad, but it’s a good idea anyway to go on the activity start screen in advance.

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      Bradleyd Bronze Member @isazi
      last edited by 14 Nov 2022, 01:33

      @isazi and @freeheeler, this makes logical sense: get HR and GPS locked and confirmed well before going to the starting line.

      On a side note, “fused-speed” is an unbelievably cool feature and great backup for flakey GPS.

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        Tieutieu Platinum Member
        last edited by 14 Nov 2022, 06:05

        AGPS is back this morning on my S9B

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          jussim Bronze Member
          last edited by 14 Nov 2022, 07:30

          Ah, good to know the reason. I was wondering why it was taking unusually long to get GPS locked in recent weeks. Here’s hoping for a permanent fix soon.

          9PP since 09-2025.

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            Milan Šádek @isazi
            last edited by 14 Nov 2022, 07:39

            @isazi Is it only S9 related problem? I received a GPS twice within 20-30 sec last Saturday with my S5. And yesterday, it was superfast - something like 15 sec only. Normally, I have to wait even 1+ min.

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              Mitch9
              last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 06:15

              Now again: AGPS N/A

              Watch: Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar (Sand)
              SA: Android (beta)
              HRS: Polar H10

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                MiniForklift Platinum Member
                last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 07:21

                Mine is all good right now 👍

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                  freeheeler @MiniForklift
                  last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 07:22

                  @MiniForklift
                  what time and date is your AGPS?
                  because mine is N/A…
                  but Suunto knows ✊

                  living sideways

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                    cosme.costa
                    last edited by cosme.costa 21 Nov 2022, 07:59

                    I think Suunto should start to check this issue seriously, if they aren’t. Seems that is only S9/S9B related, if I’m not mistaken S5 uses the same Sony chip so issue should come from another place.

                    AGPS file is valid for some days 2/3/4 days but issue here is that with a sync we loose a valid AGPS file because SA pushes an empty/corrupt file.

                    These small things downgrades a lot the experience with the watch, I can accept that from time to time we have this issue with the AGPS but the last months we’ve have it several times, and at least 3 weekends on a row now.

                    BTW, I know that I can go to the sport screen some time before, I do it but this is not the way. I not always have the time. I mean, right now I’m in the middle of the cros season, I run and my kids too, so most of the times I’m in a hurry, therefore I need that the GPS locking works, not spend my little time before the start with this. In my experience, when we don’t have AGPS file, even if we wait for the lock, if we don’t wait enough time the track will be quite bad, I guess is because the lock is done with the minimum satellites and the watch struggles a lot to keep this or acquire more satellites.

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                      Mff73 @cosme.costa
                      last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 08:21

                      @cosme-costa
                      agree, mainly on the technical point that, depending on dates, a “still valid” AGPS file should be kept in case of “bad one” (if it is detectable 😉 beforehand ). In such cases, watch could :
                      1- keep old data
                      2- warn user (or SA ? ) that something is beginning to goes wrong when AGPS is about to expire.

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                        el2thek Bronze Member @Mff73
                        last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 08:48

                        I have today’s AGPS on my 9B.

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                          Tieutieu Platinum Member
                          last edited by Tieutieu 21 Nov 2022, 09:02

                          No AGPS again for me today…😖
                          Tried to uninstall/reinstall SA (who knows ! :p) but still no AGPS file.

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                            cosme.costa @Mff73
                            last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 09:05

                            @Mff73 I don’t remember well but I think that Coros tells you if the AGPS file is still valid or you need to sync the watch to get and updated one. I guess this is useful when you don’t sync the watch regularly in the case of Suunto with the background sync is not needed, but …

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                              A Former User @cosme.costa
                              last edited by A Former User 21 Nov 2022, 11:56

                              @cosme-costa said in Suunto 9 Baro AGPS n/a:

                              In my experience, when we don’t have AGPS file, even if we wait for the lock, is that if we don’t wait enough time the track will be quite bad, I guess is because the lock is done with the minimum satellites and the watch struggles a lot to keep this or acquire more satellites.

                              Same experience here with non-Sony chip Ambit3 too. Not sure what is going on with AGPS data on servers, but sometimes it’s really frustrating me. 😞

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                                MiniForklift Platinum Member @freeheeler
                                last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 19:27

                                @freeheeler said in Suunto 9 Baro AGPS n/a:

                                @MiniForklift
                                what time and date is your AGPS?
                                because mine is N/A…
                                but Suunto knows ✊

                                Um, well mine has gone back to being N/A as of this morning 🙄

                                SV Titanium Solar Forest

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                                  freeheeler @MiniForklift
                                  last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 19:31

                                  @MiniForklift
                                  I bet it will receive the next AGPS tomorrow morning.
                                  …based by observation 😉 ✊

                                  living sideways

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                                    MiniForklift Platinum Member
                                    last edited by MiniForklift 21 Nov 2022, 19:33

                                    It doesn’t seem to affect anything for me just from having a couple of runs when it’s been N/A. Still literally a few seconds for it to find and click to a satellite(s) and the GPS and tracking during the run appears to be unaffected

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                                      freeheeler @MiniForklift
                                      last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 19:36

                                      @MiniForklift
                                      once it locks satellites and you maybe wait 2-3 breaths all should be good. it just takes slightly longer until that happen, but not necessarily.

                                      living sideways

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                                        cosme.costa
                                        last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 21:30

                                        @MiniForklift @freeheeler I’ve had different experience, from long GPS lock, more than 10 minutes to a fastish lock with a quite bad track, yesterday happen the last in a race.
                                        For me is quite annoying this issue, usually I run at 6 am and I only have one hour, so I don’t have time to wait for a GPS lock that long.
                                        Fast GPS lock is a minimum for a GPS device. In my opinion, as I have said I understand that issues happen, and this one can happen from very long time to time, but not as often as it has being happening the last months. Moreover this has been happening on weekends, when one usually races or does longer activities.

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                                          jussim Bronze Member
                                          last edited by 22 Nov 2022, 05:41

                                          Lo and behold, it worked this morning.

                                          Maybe it’s just me, but when you pay premium for a product like this, you’d kind of expect things to work more reliably.

                                          9PP since 09-2025.

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