Suunto 9 Peak software update?

sartoric

I still have a Spartan and I’m ok with it
I have “mostly” more then what I had when I did choose to buy it.
Would I like to have more functionalities ? Of course
Do I blame Suunto for the lack of features ? No

Maybe in a year I’ll decide to buy the S9PP or whatever it will be

Theo Lakerveld

@Brad_Olwin , I’m also happy with my S9P. Though, for me Running power, Increased screen size (and resolution/AMOLED?), Offline music control, Multiple sensor support, Map functionality, Buttonless triathlon transitions are certainly improvement points that need to be implemented rather sooner than later. As you said, some of these would require new hardware.

Stas Varazhbit

@Brad_Olwin The new watch features and firmware tweaks are mostly about running modes. Yes, if I were running or trail running only, the s9p is the best watch for me. And I see the testers are mostly runners.
But my challenge is a little more complicated - it’s a multisport - triathlon, duathlon, swimrun, aquathlon. Why are there still no duathlon and aquathlon modes with transitions? It’s not hard to add them to the firmware. It is very inconvenient and takes a lot of time when you have to switch between sport modes with more than one touch. Why not let you create your own multisport mode?
And swimming. No ability to add leg exercises, no rest timer or exercise timer.
And this was all in the Ambit series and worked perfectly.
But Suunto design, SA, and excellent battery life outweigh those shortcomings

isazi

@Stas-Varazhbit said in Suunto 9 Peak software update?:

But my challenge is a little more complicated - it’s a multisport - triathlon, duathlon, swimrun, aquathlon. Why are there still no duathlon and aquathlon modes with transitions? It’s not hard to add them to the firmware.

Nothing is easy, everything is at least an order of magnitude more difficult than what you expect.
But Suunto is doing research in this field, and some coming S+ apps should show this, probably soon.

Stas Varazhbit

@isazi The question is how will this be implemented in S+? Will it be displayed in SA as separate views with the right parameters and how will it be transferred to TP?
And there hasn’t been a single firmware improvement since March, so I assumed that no further improvements to the old clock are planned and all efforts will be focused on the new s9pp.

isazi

@Stas-Varazhbit said in Suunto 9 Peak software update?:

@isazi The question is how will this be implemented in S+? Will it be displayed in SA as separate views with the right parameters and how will it be transferred to TP?

It is being researched in S+ because it is faster to do experiments this way, it doesn’t need software updates. There is already a swimrun S+ app being tested to automatically do transitions. There is a chance that, once this is well understood, the same functionalities will be potentially transferred to the native firmware.

renton82

@isazi Apart for hardware limitation (maps, music, screen size…) the only thing i miss is drill exercise during pool swim, i cannot use this watch for my primary sport since i would miss a consistent part of my workout… any news about this?

thanasis

@Brad_Olwin said in Suunto 9 Peak software update?:

@Stas-Varazhbit What do you need that is not present on the watch?
I have a 9Peak that works well. What I want will require new hardware most likely.

Speaking for myself here … I just need the bugs to be fixed . Not interested in any new features per se(they are welcome but won’t change much) since I got it with what was offered . The only complain is of not getting things fixed despite mentioning that it is fixed with the next firmware… it shouldn’t be something requiring to wait for 9months or so

isazi

@thanasis we only mention that to keep the dialogue moving between users and Suunto, so users can keep track of which bugs are fixed and which not when new firmware comes. Suunto decides everything, they produce the watches.

Bulkan

@Stas-Varazhbit I practice multi sports and find those limitations too. If you practice duathlon a Suunto is not ideal. For triathlon their mode and selection for transitions is great but is short in management of the sensors and customisable screens. And the lack of drills in swimming is frustrating. But that’s the reality.

Once said that, the watch works really good and the data is really accurate. And for me I prefer to have instapace accurate rather other options.

For triathlons are others brands more specific but aren’t a Suunto. So is a personal choice.

We keep reporting the feedback but is not in our hands and we can not say what is coming or not, mostly because we don’t know, but I think there is a huge space for multisports improvement.

Ketoohs

@Theo-Lakerveld For me a big improvement would be a better readability of the screen. I like to have 5 fields on my main screen when running and find it hard to see the data sometimes. I don’t know if S9PP solves that issue or if the screen is not good/big enough. I had no problem on my Spartan with that.

Other than that Running power would be great (but probably needs HW chanege) and some HRV metrics in SA, which I don’t know if the OHR on S9P is good enough.

As others pointed out my fear is that this is the last (major) FW update for S9P and they Suunto will focus on the S9PP and provide new functionalities to older watches trough S+ apps which have other limitations (only one per exercise), not fully integrated in SA,… Hopefully not as that would not be OK for a 1 year old flagship watch.

Lets see.

isazi

@Ketoohs said in Suunto 9 Peak software update?:

As others pointed out my fear is that this is the last (major) FW update for S9P and they Suunto will focus on the S9PP and provide new functionalities to older watches trough S+ apps which have other limitations (only one per exercise), not fully integrated in SA

S+ apps are fully integrated in SA, and will be even more, including see the S+ values in graphs in the app (already possible in latest Android beta).

Mff73

@Ketoohs
I am testing S9PP against my Spartan. And the same 7 fields screen on both watched seems to me more readable on smaller S9PP than on bigger SSU. Bold font is quite efficient.

Kosta

SW updates are important, because sport watches are not only the pure tools for sport, for me and many my friends it is just funny gadgets.
When this gadget regularly changing and became better with new SW features it is like get new one, and it is cool))
And also SW updates grow up loyalty to company - we bought expensive things and you support it 2 or 3 years, it is modern market reality. Impossible make a top gadget and forget about this after year, nobody will buy next gen after that.

zhang965

@Kosta said in Suunto 9 Peak software update?:

SW updates are important, because sport watches are not only the pure tools for sport, for me and many my friends it is just funny gadgets.
When this gadget regularly changing and became better with new SW features it is like get new one, and it is cool))
And also SW updates grow up loyalty to company - we bought expensive things and you support it 2 or 3 years, it is modern market reality. Impossible make a top gadget and forget about this after year, nobody will buy next gen after that.

The story repeats itself, Spartan s9b and s9p
I lost my patience now

isazi

@Kosta I wonder where did you learn that the S9P is not supported anymore, or that it has only been supported for one year (BTW it is almost one and a half year old already). You must be talking with some special sources, because as far as I have heard so far the S9P is still supported by Suunto.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

There is a software update coming up and if all things went to plan that would have been already the case.

Kosta

@isazi yep, I understand, it was just a common thoughts, not exactly about s9p or another Suunto watch, just about importance of SW updates in general:)
My main idea is that now we buy thing (any gadget and even car) not “as is”, but with hope, that will became better with time with new SW.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Kosta we all enjoy that journey, truth be said.

@Kosta I would prefer a snappy UI instead of new features.